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post #1 of 37 (permalink) Old 05-04-2012, 02:02 AM Thread Starter
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The mind of an ex-motorcycle thief

Not sure how many of you are familiar with Reddit.com, but recently a motorcyclist requested for a motorcycle thief to run a "ask me anything" session. One guy stepped forward to answer questions and I found the questions and answers very interesting. Here it is for those who want to check it out, his introduction is up top and you'll have to scroll down to read the comments. Highlighted bright blue is the original poster answering the questions:
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thanks for the link. i love the reddit ask me anything stuff.
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Crap....now I really can't sleep after reading some of that....

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Crap....now I really can't sleep after reading some of that....
Just make sure you have insurance. I totally believe the guy when he says LoJack can be found and removed even though LoJack claims they hide it in places no one can find. I mean come on, a person at the shop installs LoJack, who is to say he can's just tell his buds where the common places are and how to disarm it. Sure it sucks to have your bike stolen (all the time and money put into the mods that make it YOUR bike) and no check from the insurance company will fully compensate for it but being thousands of dollar in the hole is like having your chest shat on, and no one likes that haha. If someone wants your bike bad enough they'll take it and you can't really do anything about it.
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Just make sure you have insurance. I totally believe the guy when he says LoJack can be found and removed even though LoJack claims they hide it in places no one can find. I mean come on, a person at the shop installs LoJack, who is to say he can's just tell his buds where the common places are and how to disarm it. Sure it sucks to have your bike stolen (all the time and money put into the mods that make it YOUR bike) and no check from the insurance company will fully compensate for it but being thousands of dollar in the hole is like having your chest shat on, and no one likes that haha. If someone wants your bike bad enough they'll take it and you can't really do anything about it.
Well I have a 12 gauge shotgun that would beg to differ on the part about NOTHING I can do about it getting stolen

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Just make sure you have insurance. I totally believe the guy when he says LoJack can be found and removed even though LoJack claims they hide it in places no one can find. I mean come on, a person at the shop installs LoJack, who is to say he can's just tell his buds where the common places are and how to disarm it. Sure it sucks to have your bike stolen (all the time and money put into the mods that make it YOUR bike) and no check from the insurance company will fully compensate for it but being thousands of dollar in the hole is like having your chest shat on, and no one likes that haha. If someone wants your bike bad enough they'll take it and you can't really do anything about it.
Yeah, it's insured. It's more that second part with all the mods and the fact that I will not get fully compensated. I agree on the LoJack. I heard that and I was like "Really....come on now. It's a motorcycle. Not a corn field"

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really insightful actually. at first I read it and was thinking, "what an a$$, I hope he gets what he deserves." but after reading the entire story, I realized that this guy actually made the right decision and moved on with his life. sure he made some really crappy decisions back in the day, but at least he is man enough to admit it.

also, through reading his stories, I bet many moto owners will wise up on where they leave their bikes and what methods of security they use. if it saves one person from having their bike stolen...


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Thanks for posting this.
He seems to have the right outlook on his life now. And agree that if this can prevent one bike getting stolen then it's a good thing.
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Glad I have a house, garage and rarely leave my bike unattended for long. That's peace. Insurance helps too.


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Well I have a 12 gauge shotgun that would beg to differ on the part about NOTHING I can do about it getting stolen
You have to catch them, good luck with that.

Insurance FTW.

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Well I have a 12 gauge shotgun that would beg to differ on the part about NOTHING I can do about it getting stolen
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You have to catch them, good luck with that.

Insurance FTW.
agreed a gun only works if you catch them in the act and then again that can turn a sketchy situation into a whole new can of worms...

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this is the video in a link from that thread. these big ass chains dont last that long when up against the croppers. think the key to having a bigass chain is to try mount it around the bike so the thieves cant use the floor as leverage with there body wieght, something i hadnt really thought about.


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not 100% certain on the intention of the above video. I'm sure it is to inform bike owners. Seems like it would do quite a good job of encouraging thieves.

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not 100% certain on the intention of the above video. I'm sure it is to inform bike owners. Seems like it would do quite a good job of encouraging thieves.
yeah you may be right it dont look too hard to get thru a chain with bolt croppers like does it theive whove watched this were prob rubbing there hands together in delight. apparently a 16 mill chain link is the only thing to stop this method of stealing a bike. or mounting it in a way they cant get any leverage off anything to put body wieght on the handles... how to do this tho, i dont know. as shown even with a chain raised off the floor its possible to use one handle on the floor the other with your body on top.

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I spent 2 hours reading through all of the question/answers in the comments. Some idiots kept asking him the same question over and over again, without reading everything leading up to their question, but tremendousguilt kept answering their questions. Such a good read, very eery at times. I've got the Xena XX-10 lock he recommended in my shopping cart at the moment



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You have to catch them, good luck with that.

Insurance FTW.
Agreed! Worst case u get a check and get to have more fun modding your new bike doing the things you wish u did the first time!
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Just got my bike this past winter, that article definitely made me think twice about buying some locks/etc for when I need to park my bike on the street
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wow i def lurked on that thread for a while lol

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thanks for posting this. had my bike stolen and it def strikes me in that unique way.
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thats a very interesting read
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Makes me want to move my bike right now.
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Makes me want to get into the theft business. Lol jokes.
This was very informing, and even helped me with what to look for when buying a used bike.
This guy is amazingly intelligent, and could make quite a profit from doing some good writing.


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I have a Scorpio i600 w/two way pager and proximity sensor. There have been 3 theft attempts on it.

The first two guys with a truck were picking it up and I got one with a baseball bat before he made it into the bed of the truck.

The second I went out and a bike rocket away, the bike was laying on its side with the alarm blaring.

The alarm wakes me up and now I burst outside in my boxers with a loaded handgun in about 10 seconds from the trigger. No attempts in the last year. I think the thieves actually scope you out first and probably know it is alarmed and I am crazy.

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Luckily the WR250R is not as big of a target! I should probably still get an alarm for it or something though


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Yes and no. If someone did everything right, then no, but in this business that is rarely the case.
For example, lets say you had a bike that had a midyear update. Lets say it didn't change frames/motors, but the bodywork and other bits got a mild update. I'll use the 04 to 05 CBR600RR as an example. The bike is basically the same, but the subframe is different, tail section, seats, passenger pegs, swingarm, finish on the wheels, forks/brakes, brake caliper colors, etc. The frame and motor are basically identical and you can build an 06 600RR on the frame of the 03 600RR if you want to. There is almost no legitimate reason in the world an 03/04 600RR would have every single update of the 05/06 model. Many bikes are like this and this is just one example. Also something to look for are the jammer nuts that are for the motor mounts through the frame They look sort of like a crown. For one reason or another most idiots don't have the right tools to remove these and they use a hammer and a screwdriver or punch. If they are banged up or missing then the motor has been removed/reinstalled by someone who did not have the proper tools. Generally a bad sign.




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I have a very basic insurance policy and it even covers theft.
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Awesome read been on it all day. Lors of pointers especially for those places that sell used bikes that were obviously wrecks I know of a place out here in south ca that did that I walked into their dealer once and immediately sketched out. Left ina second and just recently found out they went under met one of the owners and bought fairings but totally sketchy
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So for the past hour or so at work I've been reading this post. It's very interesting, and quite bizarre at the same time. It's amazing to hear it from their side of the story and what they look for when stealing a bike. It makes me really happy that I spend a little extra each month to have a garage and that I put some money into security features for my motorcycle.
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