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Swapped out front calipers for 2006 636 calipers

Hi guys, so i recently swapped my front calipers for the ninja 636 gold calipers...everything fits. I just have one concern. On the oem calipers, there is a sleeve built into the calipers that go over the fork caliper bracket. With the kawi calipers, there is no sleeve so now on the bracket, there is about 1-2mm space exposed. Should i put a spacer of some kind to fill that space up? Or will it be fine? The caliper is sitting good no wobble, wheel is turning freely and brakes are working fine. Its just this little issue. Ive attached a pic to show you what im talking about.
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Hmm. I am almost certain those ZX6's use 300mm rotors - I would have thought this would be part of the fork boot, but maybe Kawi just had Tokico make the mounts on the caliper shorter. I would not be ok with using those brakes in anger without the spacers to move them outward.
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Are you sure it won't go down anymore? Btw I think those calipers are mixed up, the one pictured should be on the other side.
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Hmm. I am almost certain those ZX6's use 300mm rotors - I would have thought this would be part of the fork boot, but maybe Kawi just had Tokico make the mounts on the caliper shorter. I would not be ok with using those brakes in anger without the spacers to move them outward.
Outward in which way? All i did was swap out my 06 600rr calipers for these ones. I natch them up and they are identical to my by visual. Only thing is the sleeve im talking about. They seem to work fine...any issues you think could happen?
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Are you sure it won't go down anymore? Btw I think those calipers are mixed up, the one pictured should be on the other side.
No because on my oem calipers, there is a sleeve that sits on top of the exposed metal on the fork to hold it in place more firmly...i'll take a picture when i get home in a few hours to show you what I'm talking about...and yeh I thought so too cause of the brake line stopper, but then the bleeder would be at the bottom, and the oem one has the bleeder at the top...so which way you think I should put it? Bleeder downwards? Id have to bleed it off the fork before I mount it back on in that case. Sorry for my noob lingo. Hope you know what im saying.
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Ok i see now where there is an issue...the caliper should be sitting in more and because it doesnt have a sleeve on the caliper it cant sit down where its suppose to be like the oem and therefore the pads are not fully on the rotor. To correct this id need either bigger rotors or some how bring the caliper down more...ugh guess I have to change them back and re-sell them... thanks for the feedback anyway.
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Actually, ur right. leave it as is... bleeder on top, the stopper shouldn't matter (in a way).

I don't think you need bigger rotors (you need a smaller one actually but that doesn't exist:). If anything try using the spacers from 06+ 1000rr, hopefully it'll fill up the gap.
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Actually, ur right. leave it as is... bleeder on top, the stopper shouldn't matter (in a way).

I don't think you need bigger rotors (you need a smaller one actually but that doesn't exist:). If anything try using the spacers from 06+ 1000rr, hopefully it'll fill up the gap.
Alright...i'll take a closer look at it later on and see if it will work. Im gunna compare my caliper again to see if its sitting in the proper spot. I hope it is and will be fine. You think if some of the pad is off the rotor it will be fine still? Or if thsts the case i should just put the oem back on?
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put OE back on?

Brakes are not the area to experiment with.
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put OE back on?

Brakes are not the area to experiment with.

Can you give us a good reason to? Beside the "experiment" thing of course.


Most brembo calipers uses specific spacer for specific bike, only difference is it's not brembo however it's still break caliper/s so why not just use spacers?

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You need remove the dowel pins on your 636 calipers if you want them to sit flat on the mounting bracket, easy enough to do if you have an extractor for broken bolts/studs.


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The dowel pin is in the fork not the caliper

Pull the caliper off and remove the dowel pins with a pair of pliers. Easy as pie. Then just install the caliper. You don't need the pins
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The dowel pin is in the fork not the caliper

Pull the caliper off and remove the dowel pins with a pair of pliers. Easy as pie. Then just install the caliper. You don't need the pins
Ah ok, yes I was wondering if they came off or not. Thank you! Hopefully this corrects it. I'll update later
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So i took off the dowel pins and it was super easy. Now its sitting lower and looks great. I feel it grabbing more than it was I guess there is more pad touching the rotor now. Going to test it out tomorrow. Thanks!
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