Hello all. Im going to document a minor build up of my bike, after a minor get off at the track. Any comments or valuable info is appreciated.
Basically I realized that taking a streetbike to the track is all good and fine, until you start to think you're Rossi reborn, brake a little too late and bin it.
Im going to try to set the bike up primarily for track but still streetable for rides every so often.
Mostly due to it being more of a nuisance than actually useful. I've been transitioning more towards riding the track and its a pretty bulky system(heavy too) and just always seems in the way. Plus the response wasnt always there under real hard braking, and I figured I'd be better off learning proper braking without any aids.
Thanks for the recommendation. I haven't decided what to do suspension wise just yet. I would like complete cartridges but im not sure i would benefit fully from them yet. Im still intermediate pace and the bike seems to do everything i want it to. I've never ridden on a set of ohlins or other top of the line fork, so i honestly dont know what im missing.
Rebuilding the forks with ohlins fpk and racetech springs was my target. Any experience with just changing internals? Is performance noticably better over stock?.
Hopefully some nice suspension deals go up for sale at the end of the season.
i haven't done anything with my suspension yet, not changes wise any way, but when I got mine it was set up all wrong, I know an ex BSB suspension tech who set it all up for my weight and for fast road/track, it's like it's on rails now, if you're not already set up to at least that give that a try first, the difference for me was huge and immediate, I imagine a better suspension kit would just keep building on that
I played around for quite a while getting the bike "dialed" in. I believe its set up pretty good now and haven't had to make any changes lately. I try to keep an eye on suspension travel and tire wear which seems pretty spot on. I've missed the suspension guys at the track. Seems whenever i go, they arent there. I'd like to get their feedback as well.
Waiting for my clipons and rearsets to come in, so i had some time on my hands. I decided to slap some paint on a spare rim i was planning to throw a track tire on.
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Basically put the red base on, let dry a few hours. I played around with the tape a bit. Added the black. Removed the tape and cleared it. Not too bad for messing around i dont think. Now to get the tire for it..
Also I'm looking for a factory front wheel, if anyone has one they want to let go of, let me know.
In terms of the suspension internals I think they are a great alternative. My first 600rr (2011) had stock suspension but obviously inverted forks and my current 600rr (2003) had traditional forks with ohlins internals and the difference is night and day. The internals are valving and springs and make the bike leagues beyond my 2011 and on par with a lot of the bikes im riding with equipped with full ohlins (although I cant ride it anywhere close to its potential) it does seem to be a great alternative. Great looking bike though ill be keeping up!
Thanks for the input clilholt. Thats a pretty big improvement, for the 03 to surpass the 11. I've honestly not outgrown the stock suspension yet, but I'm thinking replacing the internals will give me more room for growth, without going crazy on full ohlins.
Yeah I am very pleased with the set up, and I think you're right about the stock suspension being extremely capable and the internals might take you to the next level when you're ready. I know I wouldn't be able to use the stock suspension to its best ability. What other plans have you worked up for the build?
For now I'm just getting the bike rideable again. I'd like to make it to a couple more trackdays before the long winter sets in, which is when I'll be doing most of the work to the bike.
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Awesome dude its going to be a clean bike no doubt. Good luck with the work man!
Got barraged by parts this week, thanks to Diego at Cyclesector, whom I highly recommend you guys check out. Super cool guy, can get you anything you need and beats others advertised prices.
Got some time and started stripping the bike down. It's looking like its usual wintertime form, but its August. I hate missing all this ride time, only get so much in New York.
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Also got a little surprise. Arrow header bracket broke pretty cleanly at the welds. Shouldn't be too bad to weld back up. Just another thing to do.
I've been so busy lately but finally had time to get in the garage this morning..pretty productive day.
Replaced the stock clutch with this beauty
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I got the Brembo master mounted up and bled. Had some trouble with the reservoir mount that comes with the Brembo kit. I ended up using the stock one modified a bit. Its ugly but will do for now.
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I was able to weld up the broken bracket on the headers. Once again, not too pretty but effective. It'll be tucked away behind the fairings, anyway.
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And got the replacement rearsets mounted,
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I should be receiving my subframe and fairings Tuesday. I cant wait to get all this stuff sorted. Hopefully I'll be back on it by next weekend..
Yeah man, i can't wait! Gonna feel completely different.
I ended up going with the CRC fairings. They seem to be top quality, and are prefitted and drilled. So ordering replacement parts later on, they should mount right up. Price wasn't too bad either..
Ok, so my Motoholders subframe and crc fairings came in today. The subframe is awesome, looks great and is extremely light though it feels very solid.
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The CRC fairings look good and are predrilled with zus fasteners installed, which will save a lot of time in the fitting process. They're definitely not paint ready out of the box. Theres quite a few rough spots that'll need some attention before paint.
I also ran into an issue with the seat unit fitment. The rear seat mounts on the seat pan measure 9 and 3/4 inches apart, when the motoholders and factory subframe mount locations are 10 and 1/2 inches apart. It sucks cus its too small of a distance to make relocation brackets for, but too large of a gap to drill new holes in the seat pan. I sent an email to Reactive Parts which is where I got the parts from and hopefully we can find a simple solution to this before I start hacking the seat pan up.
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In the pic, the right side is bolted in and you can see how off the left side is.
Ok.. so I got the seatpan all sorted. At first when I was just doing a mock up of how it will fit I didnt have the gas tank in. So the front of the seat pan was never bolted. I just assumed because the website says the CRC fairings are designed to work with the Motoholders subframe it would bolt in the proper location. In actuality the seat pan mounts end up sitting 2 inces forward of the threaded mount on the subframe, so I'll be able to drill and tap my own holes where I need them.
Ok. Finally got out on the bike. I must say the slipper is pretty awesome. I cant wait to really put it to the test at the track. Theres absolutely no feedback whatsoever from the rear tire while downshifting. My only experience with slippers previously was with factory zx6r and zx10r. The yoyodyne has a much cleaner feeling. Thats the only way i can think of explaining it.
The tail fairing really raised the seat height quite a bit more than I expected. That will take some getting used to, as Im short to begin with.
The brembo master is great. The lever is rock hard and takes such little actual pressure to stop the bike. This may take some getting used to as well. Definitely dont want to grab too much brake while trail braking into the corner. I'll be talking about another rebuild at that point..haha.
Those are some of the best upgrades you could have done! I am so jealous of your slipper... I want one Soooooo bad. Already been talking to Diego about it.
And I have felt Brembo masters, pretty incredible how little lever movement is needed before it is like 100% engaged lol.
Well even with rev matching, which I always do, if your really going ham into corners, you can still get rear wheel hop very easily lol. I like to get all of the down shifts out of the way before setting up for the corner lol
Oh yeah!.. i know what you mean. That rear end bouncing around is not a comfortable feeling..haha.. I always seem to finish my downshifts a bit late. Hopefully that'll be cleaned up now.
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