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New Moto2 engine supplier

Didn't see this posted anywhere yet so I thought I'd share.

Lots of talking about the non-Euro 4 compliance of the 600RR and how that affects the Moto2 contract. Well:

Triumph set to take over Moto2 engine supply in 2018 - Bikesport News

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Good move for Triumph. Like the article mentions, having that contract will be awesome for the company's image. What's this about rumors that Triumph might drop the Daytona though?
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I am anxious to see what happens to the cost of a used moto 2 engine when honda is done. I have seen them for around 5k euro but that may come down a lot if everyone is trying to get rid of them.

I would consider buying one.
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i'm curious to see how triumph does with supplying super reliable, super consistent engines to be absolutely beat to **** by some of the hardest users out there.


honda's performance as supplier is absolutely remarkable, with literally millions of miles put on their engines and only a handful of failures, while sticking to a +/- 0.5% horsepower variance.


triumph has never even played in the field it's going to supply engines to, so it'll be interesting for sure.
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yeah, read it too this morning.
triple in Moto2? That will be strange to hear :P

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Not only a triple but a 750 triple. Be a great sized motor if it makes it into a street chassis. I'd consider a 750 Daytona is it was available.

I am also interested in Triumphs ability to create consistent, reliable motors to the groups. Honda 600cc is big shoes to fill.

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my biggest concern here is that triumph has never had a gp effort. they don't have the experience in engineering, developing, and producing even small volumes of engines that are going to face the sheer abuse that these ones will


i suspect that they pitched a 750 triple so the engines can have relatively low volumetric output. i can't see them making much more than the outgoing 600 powerplants.


there's a very interesting article about the honda supplied engines. have a read below

Honda Worldwide | Motor Sports | MotoGP | Moto2 CBR600RR Engines
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I didn't read the full article. Bigger engine, but I wonder if it'll be tuned down or if the moto2 riders will have more power to play with.
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there's a very interesting article about the honda supplied engines. have a read below

Honda Worldwide | Motor Sports | MotoGP | Moto2 CBR600RR Engines
Great article. What a technological feat: 5 failures, three of which were traced to harmonics from the non-standard starter.

Triumph has big shoes to fill.

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A racer here in Canada rode the 675. They built it and had reliability issues all the time. Every other race to ensure it made it through races a top end rebuild had to be done.
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Very interesting thanks for the post. Seems like a great move for them, on the note of engineering I wouldn't be terribly worried. Wasn't it that the Moto 2 engines were de-tuned from the original 150hp promise down to like 125hp to make a motor that would last all season? If that's the case and still the goal Triumph should have no problem taking that 750 and making a strong and powerful motor without compromising any reliability.
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A racer here in Canada rode the 675. They built it and had reliability issues all the time. Every other race to ensure it made it through races a top end rebuild had to be done.
A guy i know has the 675 and it just dropped a valve. the bike isn't even 2 years old yet (so warranty covered it). he rides hard, but it's still too soon for such a failure.
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If triumph makes a daytona 750 with the power to go with it.......yeah I'm getting one.

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