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Inverted forks are superior end of story... Who you calling noob? Certified noob?
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Inverted forks are superior end of story... Who you calling noob? Certified noob?

We all know that's BS since $2 bills are fake.....
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gee i guess i need to ditch my ancient conventional telescopic forks for superior USD forks on my 03-04 600RR......... but this is the same ancient outdated conventional telescopic forks i used to beat the competition running superior USD forks on their R1, 1000RR, 1098 superbikes during my last race.

i also need to ditch my ancient conventional Nissin brake calipers in favor of the superior Tokico, Brembo, Soqi monoblock radial calipers that the aforementioned bikes use............ but wait this is the same ancient conventional brake calipers i used to outbrake my competition.

don't underestimate what a resprung & revalved conventional fork can do, a well tuned conventional fork can perform just as well as a well tuned USD fork, running USD forks don't mean squat if you can't dial it in & for street riding you won't notice the difference between a conventional & USD fork.

same goes for the brakes, for street riding you can't tell the difference between conventional vs radial calipers unless you're braking at the limit.

it's a good thing i spent my money on Ohlins springs & Bitubo valving shims to tune my ancient conventional Showa cartridge fork, if i happened to join the USD conversion bandwagon i would have just ended up with a stock under damped & under sprung forks that would require new springs & new valving to make it work which would have cost a lot more.

besides i love to beat guys on modern, technically superior 600, 750, 1000, 1200 sportbikes with my ancient, outdated & inferior 03-04 600RR, if i lose to them i can just make up an excuse that it's my bike but if i beat them they have no excuse.

one of the guys i raced against told me to "upgrade" to a 1000, i asked him why? he said "so that we wouldn't be humiliated if we got beat by a rider on a 1000, to get beat by a 600 is just too much" that is why i love my bike even more.


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Any other 03-04 rider feel like writing a book defending their ancient suspension???? :D
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Any other 05-06 rider want to disagree rather than show how much better their "space aged" one year newer inverted forks are? Or do they want to post up their irrelevant automotive chassis certificates instead?

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gee i guess i need to ditch my ancient conventional telescopic forks for superior USD forks on my 03-04 600RR......... but this is the same ancient outdated conventional telescopic forks i used to beat the competition running superior USD forks on their R1, 1000RR, 1098 superbikes during my last race.

i also need to ditch my ancient conventional Nissin brake calipers in favor of the superior Tokico, Brembo, Soqi monoblock radial calipers that the aforementioned bikes use............ but wait this is the same ancient conventional brake calipers i used to outbrake my competition.

don't underestimate what a resprung & revalved conventional fork can do, a well tuned conventional fork can perform just as well as a well tuned USD fork, running USD forks don't mean squat if you can't dial it in & for street riding you won't notice the difference between a conventional & USD fork.

same goes for the brakes, for street riding you can't tell the difference between conventional vs radial calipers unless you're braking at the limit.

it's a good thing i spent my money on Ohlins springs & Bitubo valving shims to tune my ancient conventional Showa cartridge fork, if i happened to join the USD conversion bandwagon i would have just ended up with a stock under damped & under sprung forks that would require new springs & new valving to make it work which would have cost a lot more.

besides i love to beat guys on modern, technically superior 600, 750, 1000, 1200 sportbikes with my ancient, outdated & inferior 03-04 600RR, if i lose to them i can just make up an excuse that it's my bike but if i beat them they have no excuse.

one of the guys i raced against told me to "upgrade" to a 1000, i asked him why? he said "so that we wouldn't be humiliated if we got beat by a rider on a 1000, to get beat by a 600 is just too much" that is why i love my bike even more.
Well said, sir.


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Another bike with forks assembled by the Mayans within their pyramids.


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Any other 05-06 rider want to disagree rather than show how much better their "space aged" one year newer inverted forks are? Or do they want to post up their irrelevant automotive chassis certificates instead?
Your a idiot... Read the bottom it clearly states "Motorcycle Division"
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Try out for the "Grammar Division" as well.

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Your a idiot... Read the bottom it clearly states "Motorcycle Division"
For the record, Your photo attachment is just too small to read anything that states "motorcycle division", but I'll take your word for it.

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Certified... Not I work at a shop and have ancient suspension:D
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Try out for the "Grammar Division" as well.
Grammar hor!!! Lmao
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We get it, you're the guy whom has sat in a classroom and has the most up-to-date modern suspension designed even after the death of our beloved space program took place, handcrafted by aliens from Area 51, in the spirit of Steve Jobs and all things technologically advanced.



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Certified... Not I work at a shop and have ancient suspension:D
your bike may have USD forks but inside it still has the same outdated 20mm cartridge damper with combined rebound/compression damping which our ancient forks have.

if you want to be really updated you might want to consider changing to a big piston fork like the 2013 600RR has or retrofit an Ohlins NIX 30mm or TTX 25mm gas cartridges with separate compression (left leg)& rebound (right leg).

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your bike may have USD forks but inside it still has the same outdated 20mm cartridge damper with combined rebound/compression damping which our ancient forks have.

if you want to be really updated you might want to consider changing to a big piston fork like the 2013 600RR has or retrofit an Ohlins NIX 30mm or TTX 25mm gas cartridges with separate compression (left leg)& rebound (right leg).

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Cool story bro...Are we done?
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...Are we done?
Sweet Jesus, please be. This is a pointless debate.

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our forks suck bro! get some Ohlins 43mm gas charged Superbike forks & Brembo monoblock calipers! yours & mine are ancient!


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Inverted forks are positioned on the motorcycle opposite or upside down when compared to conventional forks. The leverage forces that cause fork flex are greatest at the triple clamp area and weakest at the front axle. On inverted forks, the large outer tube of the fork is clamped in the bike’s triple clamps and the sliding inner tube holds the axle and front wheel. By locating the large diameter tubes in the triple clamp, the inverted or upside down fork have their largest and strongest parts combating the highest stress. This arrangement gives the forks high rigidity, which improves their response by reducing the side loading of the internal bushings (sliding surfaces). This kind of response is particularly important in high performance applications. Most inverted forks use cartridge-type damping systems.

Also, since the damping mechanisms are now held by the triple clamps, unsprung weight is minimized. Reducing unsprung weight is one of the biggest contributors to quality suspension performance, particularly for featherweight motorcycles like the YZ series or R1 and R6.
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our forks suck bro! get some Ohlins 43mm gas charged Superbike forks & Brembo monoblock calipers! yours & mine are ancient!
So in conclusion, it looks like inverted forks provide better performance (more rigid, less sprung weight, etc.) but at cost of bit more maintenance (no easy fork oil drain it seems like on a standard fork)
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Easiest way to put it is this, Honda changed forks for a reason. If they didn't think it was "better" they woulda kept the 03-04 forks. Simple as that, discussion over.


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So in conclusion, it looks like inverted forks provide better performance (more rigid, less sprung weight, etc.) but at cost of bit more maintenance (no easy fork oil drain it seems like on a standard fork)
actually you can drain the fork oil by removing the external compression damping adjusters at the bottom of your fork.


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actually you can drain the fork oil by removing the external compression damping adjusters at the bottom of your fork.
Give up already!!! Lol
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