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How do you get rid of throttle play?

I have actually never known this, even though I have been riding for years. How to I get rid of that little bit of slack the the throttle grip has? I have ridden bikes that have no movement of the throttle without it actually moving the throttle cable.

This has gotta be a simple fix, right? It's probably even in my manual... isn't it?

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yeah I kinda have this too... maybe it comes from aftermarket grips

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yeah I kinda have this too... maybe it comes from aftermarket grips

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I have stock grips. I'm not talking about the grip twisting on the bar a bit extra, I mean the actual throttle seems to have about 1/4" of turn before any throttle is really applied. I used to have this all the time on dirtbikes, but much worse.

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There are two cables coming off the throttle housing. To get rid of the play, you need to tighten the lower one (I believe...doing it from memory here). To do so, loosen the lock nut and tiwst the adjuster (a longer piece of metal just below the lock nut. This will tighten the cable and remove slack from the cable, which will eliminate the play. Then tighten the lock nut back down.

Sorry, I am at work, or I would be able to give a better description.

CORRECTION: IT IS THE UPPER CABLE (SEE BELOW)



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There are two cables coming off the throttle housing. To get rid of the play, you need to tighten the lower one (I believe...doing it from memory here). To do so, loosen the lock nut and tiwst the adjuster (a longer piece of metal just below the lock nut. This will tighten the cable and remove slack from the cable, which will eliminate the play. Then tighten the lock nut back down.

Sorry, I am at work, or I would be able to give a better description.
He's right, but it is the upper cable.
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He's right, but it is the upper cable.
Ahh, thanks for the correction! I knew it was one of them.



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You should have some play in there or you will go over a bump and jerk the throttle. Some people who have been riding for a while can ride without any throttle play, but that isn't suggested to noobs. The stock throttle play is to be set to: 2-4mm or 1/16-3/16 in

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I liked having no play but honda says you should have a little play in it. Take it out a little at a time and and see how you like it. But yeah.. Tighten the top cable, its easy....

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Thanks for posting this, I've got too much play in mine. Same exact problem as the OP.
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I have been riding and had race training for two years, I've got plenty of experience for my age too!

I've always ridden offroad with the play taken out, I'm used to it on my CBR1000RR, I just never did the work on my own.

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Great thread. Will try to ajust mine too.

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is the throttle play really that necessary? i dont have as much experience but i usually just feel it when im starting from a stop, and i doubt a bump would be an issue then

and can it be adjusted the same for 03-06 600s as well?
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good thread. i'll have to try this. thanks.



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You can also recalibrate the throttle position sensor (TPS) with a PCIII and remove the "digital" slack Honda puts in the throttle. Mine was at -3% when I recalibrated.

I'd highly recommend you do both the cables and the TPS recalibration. Just make sure when you're adjusting the cables that it does NOT raise the RPM of the bike when you turn the bars from full-lock right to left.


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what's the lower cable control then?
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I have mine free about 2-3mm. I adjust it every few months. But, my apt place and a few places i go have too many speed bumps or just bumpy roads.

And redrider mentions a very important point, I always check that the rpms don't go up when i move my handle bars from one side full lock to the other side.

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what's the lower cable control then?
It pushes the throttle shut.



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I have stock grips. I'm not talking about the grip twisting on the bar a bit extra, I mean the actual throttle seems to have about 1/4" of turn before any throttle is really applied. I used to have this all the time on dirtbikes, but much worse.

yeah my grips DONT slide its the actual throttle thanks for telling me how to fix it and good thread idea

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I liked having no play but honda says you should have a little play in it. Take it out a little at a time and and see how you like it. But yeah.. Tighten the top cable, its easy....
im not sure if you remember this or not, but you recommended i remove the slack from my throttle when i met you up at palomar. back when you were still taking pics up there lol.

well, i can tell you from my opinion that it does drastically smooth out my throttle control because there is less wrist movement to get the throttle open. i used to always turn the throttle slowly to find the point where it cracks open. now its just as soon as i turn the throttle.

oh and it is the upper cable. just loosen the lock nut and adjust. very very straightforward.

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Yeah, make sure you have some play, its just like mountain bikes, you need some play or else it can rev up when turning handle bars from lock to lock.

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Yeah, make sure you have some play, its just like mountain bikes, you need some play or else it can rev up when turning handle bars from lock to lock.
That's a good point. Make sure your rpm doesn't increase when your turn lock-to-lock. You can adjust to zero play and still be OK.
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That's a good point. Make sure your rpm doesn't increase when your turn lock-to-lock. You can adjust to zero play and still be OK.
Actually, when adjusting this on my 09 600RR, the RPM never changed without any throttle, but if you did rev it up, the RPMs drop much slower, indicating slight throttle applicaton. Kinda interesting.

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some play is reccamended, but not too much
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Actually, when adjusting this on my 09 600RR, the RPM never changed without any throttle, but if you did rev it up, the RPMs drop much slower, indicating slight throttle applicaton. Kinda interesting.
Same here. I loosened mine back up until it snapped back freely. Still pretty much zero play.
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That a crack at me?

I didn't say I was a prodigy, I said I have a lot of experience for my age, which is a fact. I simply have had more opportunities for learning than other guys my age due to the situation I was born into. Lay off.

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did you ever modify your throttle play?

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did you ever modify your throttle play?
Yes, I did. Had to be careful when you turn the bars to the left because it would apply slight throttle. Found a sweet spot and now just have a perfect throttle. Bumps don't affect my throttle smoothness or feel.

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