Howto: 05/06 Gixxer mirror install without drilling holes in stay + with RR base

Tools:
Drill Press
Vice
Large drill bit (forget size)
Tiny drill bit (just big enough to run two 22AWG wire)
Belt sander

I will update this post with bit size later. Sorry about the poor phone pics - its all I had on me atm.

1. Start by removing the plastic rubber backing on the bottom of the gixxer mirror base. Fairly easy. BEFORE AND AFTER:

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6334/63221095gp6.jpg




2. If you look closely you will notice that there is a hollow rivet that holds the base to the stem. The aim is to remove the part of the rivet thats been pressed in. When we remove this (drill it out) the base will fall off.

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3. Put some plastic tape around the stem (to keep it from being damaged on the vice). We do not care about the base cause we are not going to use it.


4. Mount the mirror on a vice on your drill press. The rivet etc is not parallel to the base so you actually have to mount it on the vice at a slight angle on your drill press. Use the larger drill bit here and grind down about 1mm:

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Mount the base at an angle amd grind down only about 1mm or till the rivet collar is drilled out:

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5. When done the base should become loose. Take it out of the Vice and pull it off. It should look like this:

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6. You will notice notches on the underside of the stem. Use a belt sander to smooth this out otherwise the mirror will not sit flush on the RR base. BEFORE AND AFTER

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/3193/39691322wm1.jpg

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RR MIRROR: (didnt take any pictures)
7. Move on to the RR mirror. Take the base off by removing the Allen bolt in the middle. Mount the base on a vice (dont mount the actual base because you might scratch it up. Instead put two screw through the two holes on the two sides and use the vice to hold these screws as you unscrew the middle allen bolt)

8. We are going to use this screw and base on the Gixxer mirror. Unfortunately How will we run the wires? I forgot to take a picture of this, but use your drill press and a tiny drill bit to drill a hole through the middle of this allen bolt. Dont worry - it is a fairly thick bolt and small hole down the middle wont hurt anything. Just make sure ITS DOWN THE MIDDLE.


9. Use this RR bolt (with a hole down the center) to mount the RR base to the gixxer mirror stem. Will take some effort because this screw+boss was designed to be a seriously tight fit. Use an extender on your allen key to get more torque if you have to (I had to on one of them)

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10. Remove the jacket around the mirror wire. and run this down the hole you made on the allen bolt.



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11. VOILA!! Gixxer mirror with RR base. Remember the base of the stem of the gixxer mirror is bigger than the area on the RR base on which it mounts. So it is not an exact flush fit. It still looks good in my opinion.

EDIT: Save the washers that come with your RR mirror. I have only used one here but you need to use all of them. If you do not put the right number of washers in - the screw will go through too far and stick out the bottom preventing the base from sitting flush against the fairing.


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you are awesome man!!!!!!!!!

Just saw you are in MD, what part?

nice man! look really good

thanks guys. Cant wait to see when they look like on my bike. Will post pics of that soon.

When I have 300 bucks to throw away (unlikely) I will attempt the 08 1krr mirrors. Unless somebody is willing to donate a pair?

Next week I will try and figure out how to turn this into a running+turnsignal light and still use two wires (not that hard actually).

Nice.
Just wondering how you would get them off. Do you have the wires hooked up with some pretty small QD's or would you just have to cut them?

As for 2 wires for the running lights, just set it up to where the flasher relay kills the power when it's to flash.

demented, im not sure i know what QD stands for.

Also, get what off? If you are referring to the 1krr mirrors - I have only seen them ON the bike so I dont know how the bases are mounted. Will only find out the hard way.

Everyone else doing this mod: Save the washers that come with your RR mirror. if you do not put the right number of washers in - the screw will go through too far and stick out the bottom preventing the base from sitting flish against the fairing.

He probably means after you wire them up, there's really no way to take them back off unless you cut the wires.

quick disconnects guys... I am pretty sure thats what Demented was talking about... I have taken mine off and reinstalled mine at least three times... Also those of you with rapid blinkers caused by flushmounts, this will bring your blinker speed back to normal

demented, im not sure i know what QD stands for.

Also, get what off? If you are referring to the 1krr mirrors - I have only seen them ON the bike so I dont know how the bases are mounted. Will only find out the hard way.

Everyone else doing this mod: Save the washers that come with your RR mirror. if you do not put the right number of washers in - the screw will go through too far and stick out the bottom preventing the base from sitting flish against the fairing.

QD = quick disconnect.
As for taking them off, you have the wires down through the head of the bolt. Do you have QD's on the wires or if you need to take the mirrors off are you going to have to cut the wires to pull them out?

^ good point... How bolt getting just a regular 10mm bolt and drilling the whole that way when you have to remove it it won't be a problem... and why the F***** do we have john mccain gas tax moratorium banners? lol

get those mirrors mounted and the pics uploaded!!! nice mod anik321. i was thinking about this trying this ever since i read about it. i'm glad we finally i got write up. this makes me want to try the same exact mod with the 1K08 mirrors, the only thing that maybe of concern is the base of the 1k08 and the base of the standard mirrors. the 1K08 seem to have a slanted base vs the flat of the standard CBR mirrrors. might have to order both gsxr and cbr to see. =/

damn it demented. I hadn't thought that far ahead. argh.

use a wirenut?

http://www.rd.com/images/tfhimport/2005/20050901_HCR_wirenut_img001_size2.jpg

A wirenut would work if you tape over it to make sure it doesn't slip off. It looks liek you can drill the hole a little larger which would let you fit a small QD in there, one wire at a time at least, or wiring them up to a 2 pin QD.

Looks good Anik321.

Reminds me of what I had to do to get GSXR mirrrors on my VFR. Link (http://www.vfrdiscussion.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=43247)

I'm planning on doing this mod to my CBR too!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y215/dennytim/Emgo/InAction.jpg

For those of you that have these mirrors and are wondering how to remove the little plastic covers without destroying them, Simply bust out some dental floss. Works like a charm

A wirenut would work if you tape over it to make sure it doesn't slip off. It looks liek you can drill the hole a little larger which would let you fit a small QD in there, one wire at a time at least, or wiring them up to a 2 pin QD.

I would personally probably make the QD further away from the mirror than that. There is no reason to remove the mirror from the base (you just remove the base + mirrors when going to the track anyway assuming you have the block off plates) plus it will make it easier to take apart / put back together each time you take the mirrors off.

Looks Great Anik! Time to mount those bad boys and show them off to the world (while on the bike)! Though, I'm not sure how you're going to route the wires without drilling a hole in the fairings :icon_lol:. I have heard you could drill a small hole in the fairing and route the wire between the fairing and the stay (which would be the way I would go to keep the wire out of sight).

Anybody know a cheap place to get GSXR mirrors?

Anybody know a cheap place to get GSXR mirrors?

If you want OEM mirrors, ebay would probably be the best place to start looking.

Otherwise, Emgo makes a set of mirrors that are just as nice as the OEM Suzuki mirrors. You can usually find the Emgo mirrors for around $50 per side.

^ I got both my emgos for $50 shipped

I might have to look into this mod again.....Lets see them mounted.

aah you guys actually like those things? i might have 1 or 2 sitting around my house haha when i was a gixxer rider (:salute:) we used to get rid of them asap. ugliest things ever made lol

I know that they do not go along with the cbrs fine lines - but its was my only option since I plugged up the oles on my OEM fairings. Now it looks like there never was a hole there - so I cant even install flushmounts.

I also didnt want to put out 300 bucks for the 08rr mirrors just yet.

I am out in philly for a day or two. These will go up as soon as I get back.

Demented, I dont know if you could actually make that whole any larger without affecting the strength of the screw/allen bolt. The way it is - it already barely allows two 22AWG wire. I may just install quick connects and remove the whole mirror + base If i ever needed to.

BHspud, I have no problem cutting a hole or two on my fairings (they are ALWAYS repairable if you can do a little bit of body work). But any holes on the fairing stay would be permanent and irreversible. So i have already drilled a tiny hole to get the wires in.


I got my sets on ebay.

dude, I just saw your link - NICE!!

How does the color change from white to orange when you go from running to blinking? Is that a feature of these gixxer mirrors?

The only thing I can thing of is if the original gsxr had two different voltage/current settings for running vs. blinking lights and these mirrors were designed to detect either a PWM signal or the changing voltage levels.

Please fill us in.

EVERYBODY else - please see darts link above.

dude, I just saw your link - NICE!!

How does the color change from white to orange when you go from running to blinking? Is that a feature of these gixxer mirrors?

The only thing I can thing of is if the original gsxr had two different voltage/current settings for running vs. blinking lights and these mirrors were designed to detect either a PWM signal or the changing voltage levels.

Please fill us in.

EVERYBODY else - please see darts link above.

You're probably referring to this picture:

http://alecto.bittwiddlers.com/files/mirrors_small.jpg

I believe that this particular VFR owner swapped the stock bulbs out with those chrome bulbs. That way the mirrors don't have that egg (sunnyside up) look when turned off. And, his mirrors were wired up to act only as turn signals. Many of use have them wired as running lights and turn signals.

I believe the bulbs are an 7507.

By the way, thanks for the compliment Anik. :toothy4:

darth, i see on your link that there was talk about wiring in a relay to slow down the blink rate..but the diagram shows the relay being put after the diodes (closer to the mirror led's) indicating that there needs to be two relays added, one for each side. there is a how-to here somewhere that shows wiring in one relay to slow the blinker down, but the relay was tapped into the main harness near the other relays on the left side of bike.
so, bottom line is.. if anyone's tested, will wiring one relay into the main harness as described in the relay how-to (sorry, i'm too lazy to find the link to add it now) and wiring in the diodes give the led's the correct running and blinking along with blink rate like stock (with running off while blinking so it appears on & off, and not constant on with brighter blink)??

darth, i see on your link that there was talk about wiring in a relay to slow down the blink rate..but the diagram shows the relay being put after the diodes (closer to the mirror led's) indicating that there needs to be two relays added, one for each side. there is a how-to here somewhere that shows wiring in one relay to slow the blinker down, but the relay was tapped into the main harness near the other relays on the left side of bike.
so, bottom line is.. if anyone's tested, will wiring one relay into the main harness as described in the relay how-to (sorry, i'm too lazy to find the link to add it now) and wiring in the diodes give the led's the correct running and blinking along with blink rate like stock (with running off while blinking so it appears on & off, and not constant on with brighter blink)??

The mirrors don't use LEDs, they use regular bulbs. So there's no need to slow down the blink rate. But, if you did swap to LEDs, you need to use resistors to slow the blink rate down. I believe 6 ohm resistors would work well, one per LED bulb.

Really, there's a bunch of different ways you can wire them up to work. I would just pick which ever way is easiest for you and go with it.

darth, i see on your link that there was talk about wiring in a relay to slow down the blink rate..but the diagram shows the relay being put after the diodes (closer to the mirror led's) indicating that there needs to be two relays added, one for each side. there is a how-to here somewhere that shows wiring in one relay to slow the blinker down, but the relay was tapped into the main harness near the other relays on the left side of bike.
so, bottom line is.. if anyone's tested, will wiring one relay into the main harness as described in the relay how-to (sorry, i'm too lazy to find the link to add it now) and wiring in the diodes give the led's the correct running and blinking along with blink rate like stock (with running off while blinking so it appears on & off, and not constant on with brighter blink)??

I believe honda ECU automatically turns of running lights if turn signal is activated. If you look closely at the stock bulb - its two separate filaments which means theres two complete circuits (hence the two wires and one common ground). Hook it up with two diodes like DBling said - and report back. I am guessing it should work the way you want it to.

I didnt hook up my running lights cause i didnt want two bright ears at night.

I believe honda ECU automatically turns of running lights if turn signal is activated.

Actually, it's not the ECU but the left control pod that does it. The running light wires and turn signal wires both run through the left switch. When you hit the button to activate one of the turn signals, it cut out the running light on that side.



When I put a GSXR left control pad on my VFR, I run into this problem because the Suzuki pod is doesn't have the wires for the running light in it. So, I had to add a pair of relays to the bike to get the running lights to cut out when I thumbed the turn signal. And, in case anybody is wondering, I put the GSXR control pod on because to add a pass-to-flash and hazards to my bike.

alright, so i got everything done but one thing....i dont have a drill press to put a hole through the original base screw. how hard was it get that hole drilled? otherwise, i'll have to find a new way to run the wires.

also, what guage wire are you guys running?

thanks!

It was actually the more difficult part because the stem of the screw is decently thin - so you have to drive a drill bit pretty straight.

I would not recommend doing it by hand (you want to go all the way through not accidently come out the side)

I went with 22 or 26AWG wires. Cant remember now.

one thing to be aware off:

The wires will go through the screw, through the base and through the fairing but come out RIGHT BEFORE the fairing stay. When you tighten the two mirror base screws (that pulls the mirror and the fairing in tight against the fairing stay) it may pinch the insulator on the wire leading to a short. It did on one of mine and took out a fuse. Next time I was just careful and simply replaced the fuse.

Just take it into account - why go through the extra work of removing side panels to get to the fuse when you dont have to. Hope this helps.

i am also stuck at the hole in the screw stage... i don't have a drill press nor access to one. i'm almost finished rebuilding my bike and this mirror bolt is putting a stop to the game. is it possible for me to send my bolts to someone who don't mind drilling a couple of holes in the bolts for me, i'd greatly appreciate the help??

Hey guys,
I have a gixxer mirror mounted on my 600rr to have signal mirror. Only thing is I can't adjust it. I mean I tried to adjust the glass but doesn't help much...I tried to move the base but it either goes all the way out or all the way in (no finer adjustment). Does anyone here has a clue as to how to adjust this mirror? Thanks,.

wow this looks good! what do you do with your stock signal locations then? will these signals just be in addition to the regular ones?

has anyone tried the 08 1000RR mirrors? considering they are Honda, i'll almost bet they would bolt up and plug right in.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/Ceph/102208_215000.jpg

hmm i was actually thinking about the same thing and forgot to mention it. anybody do this?

btw, does the 08 1000rr have the swiveling mirror as well? or is it just the integrated signals?

I have a set of Emgo Suzuki mirrors for sale if some is interested. They are brand new. PM me if interested .

creative.... ugly imho but creative

Do you have any pics of them on the bike?

There was a thread where one memeber installed the 08 1k mirrors on the 600rr. They don't sit flush. I will have to search for that thread.


here you go:

http://www.600rr.net/vb/showthread.php?t=106951&highlight=1000rr+mirrors

Anyone have pics of the GSX-R mirrors on there rr? and does anyone have some GSX-R mirrors that they wanna sell?

Anyone have pics of the GSX-R mirrors on there rr? and does anyone have some GSX-R mirrors that they wanna sell?

I have a set for sales... It came off an 07 gsx-r. Perfect condition... $60 shipped if you're in US. $50 if you pick up :)

man. those new 1k's are hideous! imo wtf was honda think'n??

Any pics of the Gix mirrors on a pre-2007 ???

Here is on on the 07...can't find any on 06 ...but should be very much similar. I believe they use the same mirror??

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v1920/251/112/32304299/n32304299_33172630_9099.jpg

Ahh..found it :)

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w272/painted600rr/mirrors2003.jpg

http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w272/painted600rr/mirrors2006.jpg

Gixxer Mirrors are the way to go nice pics.

Hey man, Thanks alot for this write up. I hope you dont mind but I have used your pics to do a similar writeup on one of the local forums. I gave you the credit. If you do mind, just let me know and I will take the post down.

http://www.ncsportbikes.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=235157#235157

good idea, except i agree with just getting the honda mirrors and keeping honda products with honda bikes...

How Do You Have The Wire? After You Drilled Throught The Upper Where Did You Run Them Behind?tuck Them?

If I use these mirrors as signals and wire my two wire flushmounts as running lights will the flushmount go out when I put the signal light on on that side?

what happen to this.. he never got to show pics of them on his bike.. bring it back from the dead

Mmm sexy.........

Is there any rattle or issues for the 07?

^ I got both my emgos for $50 shipped


I have also seen this deal before and I'm ready to do this over the winter and now I can't find them. :cursin: Anyone know where I can find these Emgo GSXR mirror replacments?

FORGET IT... I FOUND THEM!!

yea i think im gonna try this out i got a buddy that rides a gsxer and has a set on extra mirrors he said i can have for $10 lol mine as well try it