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Old 11-04-2012, 04:16 PM   #31
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Yeah the ticket I have just says they feel the vin has been tampered with. I've included a picture of the VIN cause I'm not sure. I'm going to forget it registered In my name tomorrow. But what if it turns out to be stolen? Then I lost
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To be honest with you it looks fishy but you stated the title you have in your hand matches that vin plate then you should be in excellent shape and from there simply register the bike install the new plates take the title , registration , insurance card and head to the police head quarters they will match the numbers together , collect the fees for the fix it ticket and off you go on your merry way
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The way this vin plate looks is the main reason why you as a buyer when buying a used bike have to compare the numbers off the plate with the title if the seller have it in his hand
and as long as they match then and only then you should make the deal
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Old 11-04-2012, 04:31 PM   #33
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The name vin and plate # all matched . Thats why I'm pissed off and scared . I think they are just trying to get another rider off the road


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Here in Philly very few ride alone (mostly small crews) but even if they are alone and get run off the road, 20 other riders are just a phone call away. it wont be long before these idiots are over run by a Squid-Squad that'll leave those Tonka cars smoldering!!
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There is no" it might be stolen" if they ran the plate and it came back as stolen then they would have not let you ride off.. Their system would have flagged it...Your a$$ would have been in cuffs and they would have called the owner to come verify it was theirs.. Something sounds fishy to me..


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The name vin and plate # all matched . Thats why I'm pissed off and scared . I think they are just trying to get another rider off the road


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Did you have the title with you when you got pulled over, did they ask for it or seen it ? If not then two reasons made them suspicious the way the vin plate looks and the registration is in some one else's name but if the answers to my questions are yes then only one issue made them assume the bike was stolen and that is the registration
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I got three questions about l the bike in general when you bought the bike did you match the numbers vin and title , did you ask the seller why the vin plate looked like that , is the title a clean title ?
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That VIN from the pics even look's dodgy to me... no wonder the cop thought it was stolen... it's all bent and crooked.

Also, is the 8th number a 7 or a 0?

Best of luck with it man, I hope for your sake it isn't stolen :/
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Think about the registration thing cause it was already paid for. I'm new to the whole transferring experience. But it's not that which raised any flags . Then say my VIN is tampered with. Yet numbers match the registration and the title. Hella weak situation
Man, cops are the f**kin worse for this type of sh*t! If everything matches out then it should be all good.

But I'm thinking they probably got a nooblet police officer/ hired someone new and you're their Ginnie pig to go over stuff like this (BS).

I hope things workout
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That VIN looks terrible, I'd never have bought it like that.
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I just saw the picture of the Vin...Holy crap... I see why they want to take a closer look. I'm with X I would have not bought that bike... it does look like the VIN was tampered with. The VIN plate shoould be black with the year of the bike and HONDA on it... that VIN plate worries me...I hope everything goes well and you get to keep the bike when they're done..
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That VIN looks terrible, I'd never have bought it like that.
Bingo that was the main reason I asked those 3 questions specially the clean title one with a frame looking like that a salvage title is a probability I hope not
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I also bought my first bike recently and didn't know about the registration. I thought transfer of title was good enough. Do you usually have to purchase a new license plate when you do registration on a used bike? or can you just keep the old one
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I also bought my first bike recently and didn't know about the registration. I thought transfer of title was good enough. Do you usually have to purchase a new license plate when you do registration on a used bike? or can you just keep the old one
The plate can only be transferred if its yours ie was bought by you , registered by you on a bike you owned if it belonged to the seller then no it can not be used by you once you register the bike a new plate is issued if you sell that bike you can always go back to that same plate and reuse it for another bike to save money simply because you own that plate
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Yeah the title isn't a salvage it doesn't say salvage anywhere on it. I'm probably fucked. When I saw the VIN when I bought the bike I must have had stars in my eyes or something all I checked was that it matched . Should of looked harder. Like I said I'm probably fucked. I am also not a thief or a crook . If I had ANY thought or idea that it was stolen I'd have told the seller to **** off .


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Check out this link type in the vin charge is a dollar for the report worth a try you know
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The VIN# is usually located in multiple places. did you check on the back for the License plate holder, under the rear seat etc. to see if they all match. just an idea.
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This sucks. Hopefully it works out for you. That vin# looks like it has a 7 over a 0.
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just talked a po in orange county ish area. he says stolen and tampered vehicles are very common in cali. things come from canada and mexico and vin'd with something else. ya ur vin might match your registration but it doesnt mean its legit. not to be a prick but iv never seen a vin tag look that fake ever. and insurance companies dont care if its legit or not they care about their premiums. per the officer i know they should tear into it and find other numbers. i mean i hope its all ok but definately enjoy the next day on it for sure... he also said after seein that vin hed have had it towed and you in cuffs until it was all sorted out.
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try to get the engine number and call Honda North America and have them cross reference that engine number with the frame (VIN) it was assigned to. I know Suzuki does that for sure. If the engine comes assigned to that VIN then you have very good support for your side.
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Get the bike registered in your name. In Florida you have to register a vehicle in your name (no matter how much longer the plates are good for) within like 10 days.. Cali is probably the same..

Is the VIN stamp on the frame (between the forks) look tampered with at all?

DO NOT leave your bike with them at all. Something I learned carrying a pilot license, never surrender anything to authorities. Once you willingly give possession to them, good luck getting it back and God knows what they're going to do with it once they have posession of it.

If you do take it in on Tuesday ask them:
1) what they plan to do with the bike
2) Why they cannot complete the search in one day
3) if they want to hold it for processing or whatever BS reason, make an appointment so you can wait for it.

DO NOT surrender your keys for any reason man! This sounds fishy as ****, and with the registration mishap you're pretty much setting yourself up for a headache. I hope you learn from this and do more research on laws next time you purchase a vehicle.. ALWAYS immediately title and register the vehicle in your name.

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I hope others can learn from my mistakes too. I mean ****, I **** up just like everyone else. But it seems to me, I get fucked over hardest for my mistakes. I got a lot of **** going on at work, and then now this. Just a bad bad time. Life ******* sucks right now really does. I hate it. I don't ******* deserve this. It's bullshit. I made a mistake. I never stole the bike (in case anyone thinks I did)
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DO NOT leave your bike with them at all. Something I learned carrying a pilot license, never surrender anything to authorities. Once you willingly give possession to them, good luck getting it back and God knows what they're going to do with it once they have posession of it.

If you do take it in on Tuesday ask them:
1) what they plan to do with the bike
2) Why they cannot complete the search in one day
3) if they want to hold it for processing or whatever BS reason, make an appointment so you can wait for it.

DO NOT surrender your keys for any reason man! This sounds fishy as ****, and with the registration mishap you're pretty much setting yourself up for a headache. I hope you learn from this and do more research on laws next time you purchase a vehicle.. ALWAYS immediately title and register the vehicle in your name.
Lol, he doesn't have a choice. Per California state law, if we suspect the bike is stolen, we can impound it with or without the keys. If it was his/your bike that was stolen, wouldn't you want the authorities to get it back? -orange co
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