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I really doubt that they will be release a completely updated bike. If the covered bikes in the picture are the actual bikes being release non of them have the silhouette of a sport bike. I hope I am wrong since I've been waiting for Honda and Yamaha to update their 600s.
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I think wishing for a mini 1000RR won't happen. At least I hope not. I don't want Honda to follow in Kawisaki's footsteps. I like that the 600RR has a unique style to it's big brother.
Well I been anticipating a redesigned 2013 CBR600RR, but I hate to be the bearer of bad news. My friend is sales manager at the dealership at Cycle Nation in Huntsville Alabama and he delivered me the most grim response I did not care to hear at all. Honda is discontinuing the CBR600RR, except for enough units for homologation whatever it is concerning the racing crew and privateers. I asked him why this was and he said it was due to poor sales figures and constant losses. I asked him if possibly a 2013 hiatus would be followed with a 2014 new bike, but he told me the chances are few, unless the economy changes.
On the good note, we will see some new 500's and possibly another adventure bike, but no 2013 CBR600RR's on the sales floor. He also went on to tell me that 2013 would likely be the last year of the Yamaha R6.
I hate this, but I mean it is like I said before. If you build a bike, no matter how exceptional it is, and there are continual losses on investment, then you can't afford to build it anymore. Honda is in the business for profit, but in his words "the numbers just weren't there to merit a 2013 CBR600RR"
I wouldn't give a rats ass if it was that piece of crap gangland gixxer that everybody talks about, but I guess young hip hop riders these days only care about gangland graffics, polished frames, and extenz-a-swingarms...
Last edited by Cody Strife; 11-03-2012 at 08:14 PM.
Well I been anticipating a redesigned 2013 CBR600RR, but I hate to be the bearer of bad news. My friend is sales manager at the dealership at Cycle Nation in Huntsville Alabama and he delivered me the most grim response I did not care to hear at all. Honda is discontinuing the CBR600RR, except for enough units for homologation whatever it is concerning the racing crew and privateers. I asked him why this was and he said it was due to poor sales figures and constant losses. I asked him if possibly a 2013 hiatus would be followed with a 2014 new bike, but he told me the chances are few, unless the economy changes.
On the good note, we will see some new 500's and possibly another adventure bike, but no 2013 CBR600RR's on the sales floor. He also went on to tell me that 2013 would likely be the last year of the Yamaha R6.
I hate this, but I mean it is like I said before. If you build a bike, no matter how exceptional it is, and there are continual losses on investment, then you can't afford to build it anymore. Honda is in the business for profit, but in his words "the numbers just weren't there to merit a 2013 CBR600RR"
I wouldn't give a rats ass if it was that piece of crap gangland gixxer that everybody talks about, but I guess young hip hop riders these days only care about gangland graffics, polished frames, and extenz-a-swingarms...
May I ask where your friend heard this from? Our Honda Reps aren't allowed to say a word so you've got me curious.
While your friend has a very valid point regarding 600 sales as of late but the 1000 sales have been in the dumps too. To the point the 1000's have taken larger rebates to move etc. Glad to see somebody finally understand they are here to make $$ and that's it and when we look at the world market we are very very low on the totem pole.
Cheap bikes are where the $$ is right now, even though the profit margin on bikes like the CBR250, CRF250L, NC700X are something you would laugh at and consider chump change they are out selling the bigger bikes at more than 10 to 1.
It'll definitely be interesting to see what happens and how things play out but I'd be willing to bet money nobody that works for a normal run of the mill dealership knows 100% what exactly Honda is or isn't going to release on the 12th.
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I would think the new Euro regulations on motorcycles would also play a role in the companies hiatus if this is true. But what I don't understand is if the economy is that bad, why is Honda planing on releasing a version of the RC213V to the public? That's a microscopic niche compared to the Supersport class.
May I ask where your friend heard this from? Our Honda Reps aren't allowed to say a word so you've got me curious.
While your friend has a very valid point regarding 600 sales as of late but the 1000 sales have been in the dumps too. To the point the 1000's have taken larger rebates to move etc. Glad to see somebody finally understand they are here to make $$ and that's it and when we look at the world market we are very very low on the totem pole.
Cheap bikes are where the $$ is right now, even though the profit margin on bikes like the CBR250, CRF250L, NC700X are something you would laugh at and consider chump change they are out selling the bigger bikes at more than 10 to 1.
It'll definitely be interesting to see what happens and how things play out but I'd be willing to bet money nobody that works for a normal run of the mill dealership knows 100% what exactly Honda is or isn't going to release on the 12th.
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I'll get back up with you tuesday on that and private message you...
One of the things we have to remind ourselves and unfortunately it comes with the aspect of being such a large manufacture of motorcycles is that Honda can't make a profit on selling a small bundle of 600rr's, they have a greater overhead expense I am sure then say Triumph or MV Augusta, or these small bike companies. From what I understand its easier for a company like Triumph to make a profit on these bikes because, simply put, their company just isn't so darn huge.
I had a feeling this was gonna happen though. The 600rr was a fantastic machine, but people...especially Americans have gotta wake up and smell the coffee, the days of redesigns of sport bikes every two years are over with... And unfortunately, we may see the demise of these powerful inline four sport bikes altogether if government regulations and emissions/noise control becomes ever more stringent and stringent...
But the RC whatever bike, I hate to say it, but thats a bike for the 1% percenters. The masses will just have to get use to going slower given the years that pass... :(
The other part that throws me off is your reps claim that the R6 is done too. Yamaha released a press release not two weeks ago on a developing 675 triple motor that will allegedly have the cross plane crank as well. May not be an R6 per say but it's clearly aimed at the supersport class. Disappointing if all true.
I'm thinking I'll hold to it for a while, don't want to be like the crowd that cries for 250/400 RRs.
mmm, maybe 5 or 10 years down the road they'll cry for the 600s too?
Damn, it will really suck if all there is left to do trackdays is either a full blown literbike or a dinky 500cc 50hp bike...
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The other part that throws me off is your reps claim that the R6 is done too. Yamaha released a press release not two weeks ago on a developing 675 triple motor that will allegedly have the cross plane crank as well. May not be an R6 per say but it's clearly aimed at the supersport class. Disappointing if all true.
If the triple engine is indeed meant for a SuperSport, then Yamaha wouldn't leave the supersport market, the'd be replacing the R6 with a three cylinder SuperSport. Discontinuing the CBR 600RR without a replacement would mean Honda gave up on the supersport market.
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would surprise me if they got rid of there 600RR. But would also make it easier for me to hold on to my bike. Because i was planning on getting a 2013 600RR or a 2012 fireblade.
Surprised the mods didn't make this one disappear as well.
You posted a thread which included a video by a banned member that clearly stole any information he got from this thread. You got called out on it and the thread lead to flaming in less than 4 posts. Yeah, I have no explanation as to why this thread is around while your pathetic one was deleted.
A 675 three cylinder with a cross plane crank... I haven't heard anything on it.... Triples are usually set 120 degrees apart pin wise right? 90 degrees, guess through counterbalancing it'll work... but what are the advantages...
I'll have to look into this...
I was thinking a three cylinder cbr600rr would be feasable giving the success of these engines in supersport bikes. I have owned a 2009 Daytona 675 and now own a street triple and from my personal experience, I am telling you they work magnificently well in the 600 class of bikes street or track..
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Just found the article and it is interesting indeed. Yamaha has a lineage of triples they have built as well, like the article mentions the XS750. I could see an oversquared triple in a cross plain. That could give the engine high rpm capability but that isn't necessarily just horsepower biased. I have always stated with my Daytona 675 that it had the power band similar to my LS1 Corvette with heads and cams. Great torque delivery with a robust surge followed by a gradual taper in power, not the scream of an inline four, not the plumet of varies 2 cylinder sport bikes either...
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You know a year ago, I forecasted a possible advent of a cbr675 and alot of folks laughed me off the forums on that one. Lol. But come on 4 bike brands selling 600cc and 1000cc that are fundamentally the same bore and stroke. I definitely welcome some diversity in the dish. Heck, if it weren't for the bike being so darn heavy I would love to own an R1. That cross plane four has a nice burble to it.
I believe in middle weight segment the triples have alot to offer and their advantages far outweigh their meager disadvantages. I have yet to know a friend who has, having rode inline 600's their whole life, not left completely mesmerized after their first ride on a 675 triumph triple. I have heard comments like "wow such an awesome exhaust note" to exaggerated comments like "this thing pulls with literbike torque on the midrange." They all love the fact that the bike is thinner between the legs.
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