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Old 10-10-2012, 07:19 PM   #301
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I found out just this year that single men with out kids can get food stamps. Im talking about men in their 20s..no disabilities or anything like that. Really? That's just pathetic. Id put myself on the street corner before id take stamps...at least id still have my degnity

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Not fair. I don't even think God could turn the economy around in 4 years that Bush screwed up. Do you realize that Bush put us through 2 wars!!! That's a lot of shiz to clean up. On top of that he deregulated the banking system and allowed everybody and their mama to be able to buy a house that couldn't afford it and then BET on them that they would default on the loans, so a lot of people not only got rich off of issuing the loans but also got rich on these people defaulting on the loans and then guess what??? Bush bailed out all of the banks. Bush bombed our economy with two wars, deregulation of banks and then the bank bailouts. How the phuck do you think ANY president can turn this shizthole of an economy around in 4 years? Use your brain.

The question you need to ask yourself is : Are we on the right track to improving the economy? Yes we are on the right path, changing the healthcare system through ObamaCare will vastly improve our economy over the long term. Also, the real estate market is slowly rebounding which will also aid in the recovery of the economy.

If Romney gets in he will take us back to the Bush years. Republicans love to go to war and Romney already said he has a beef with Iran and China. Romney could possibly destroy our country.
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I found out just this year that single men with out kids can get food stamps. Im talking about men in their 20s..no disabilities or anything like that. Really? That's just pathetic. Id put myself on the street corner before id take stamps...at least id still have my degnity

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Hey, at least you'd be a United States Citizen. If you only knew what goes on down on the southern border. People come north to have their kids, kids are then USC's through Jus Soli and so the parents (not USC's) come back north to collect food stamps every month. Then they go to Walmart and fill their cars with stuff that most hard working folks (USC's) of that area can't even afford.
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This thread was one hell of a read.....

Ron Paul 2012.

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Hey, at least you'd be a United States Citizen. If you only knew what goes on down on the southern border. People come north to have their kids, kids are then USC's through Jus Soli and so the parents (not USC's) come back north to collect food stamps every month. Then they go to Walmart and fill their cars with stuff that most hard working folks (USC's) of that area can't even afford.
Lol Texas az or Cali right?
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Hey, at least you'd be a United States Citizen. If you only knew what goes on down on the southern border. People come north to have their kids, kids are then USC's through Jus Soli and so the parents (not USC's) come back north to collect food stamps every month. Then they go to Walmart and fill their cars with stuff that most hard working folks (USC's) of that area can't even afford.

Oh I got ya, but thats another topic I don't even want to get on lol. Before too long we'll be sending stamps to ppl in India. But no it just amazed me that lets just say a healthy 23 year old male could get food stamps. Part of being anything close to a man is the ability to provide. Not all men can provide the same, but when you completely say screw it and go the stamp way, I think you should have to mail your sac to the gov't to hold on too since you obviously don't need them
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This has gone in a funny direction... Haven't we put to rest the whole "tax cut" thing? Should I get into that again?

What proof do you need that lowering taxes results in better growth thus increased revenue to the fed?

I love the criticism of Romney when it's Obama who has been president for the last 4 years. And as a nation we are going BACKWARDS!

Debt has DOUBLED (not cut in half) - 5.556 TRILLION in under 4 years
Healthcare costs are still increasing - And they are going to continue
Growth is stalling - 2010 was 2.3%; 2011 was 1.8% and 1st 2 quarters of 2012 were at 1.6%
Welfare is up
Poverty is up
Workforce is down - Participation rate is at 63.6% (the high for 2012 was 63.9% in February, the high for 2011 was 64.2%, the high for 2010 was 65.1%) Declining every year! And the workforce-population ratio is the same now as it was 2 years ago! 58.7%

That's growth???

But he deserves 4 more years.... RIGHT
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In case anyone again wants to check my information.

Bureau of Labor Statistics (provides the workforce participation rates, workforce poplation data, unemployment data): www.bls.gov
Bureau of Economic Analysis (provides the GDP data): www.bea.gov
US Department of Commerce (tracks commerce in the US and feeds the GDP): www.commerce.gov
US Census (gives you the population data): www.census.gov
Congressional Budget Office (provides you the data on revenue and expenditures of the government): www.cbo.gov

Please check my numbers if you think they are wrong.

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Yea Obama is a joke! This Benghazi crap is UNREAL! What a disgrace!!!!!!
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Either way we are screwed not big into politicas
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Either way we are screwed not big into politicas
Why'd you edit the post?

Couple questions, if you don't mind.

1.) your original post was that you're voting for Obama, how come? What is it that you're voting for?

2.) Why are we screwed either way?

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The last jobs report before the election was just released by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Unemployment rose to 7.9% (U3 rate)
Workforce rate is still lower than it was in 2011, 2010 or 2009
Workforce population ratio is still lower than it was when the president took office
GDP in 2012 (1.76) is lower than it was in 2011 (1.8%), 2011 was lower than it was in 2010 (2.4%).
National debt stands right now at $16,225,874,xxx,xxx.xx
Gas Prices sit at an average of $3.68 a gallon
Median Household income is at $50,678.00, down from 2011 ($51,027.00), which was lower than 2010 ($51,857.00), which was lower than 2009 ($53,077.00) which was lower than when he took office Jan 20th, 2009 ($55,198.00)


Anyone notice we are trending DOWNWARD? Why would we expect anything different if we vote for more of the same?


Simply AWESOME!


Maybe we should change the subject... Benghazi anyone? Oh wait, no... Fast and Furious? Oh wait, no... PPACA maybe?
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Old 11-07-2012, 09:44 AM   #316
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For those that love Obama question for you, have you ever lived under Socialism??
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For those that love Obama question for you, have you ever lived under Socialism??
I am not sure anyone loves Obama, but between the two it isn't even close.

Mr. Etch a sketch was a huge joke.


But what do I know, my boy only got 1% of the vote.
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For those that love Obama question for you, have you ever lived under Socialism??
Nope, and I never will. Any insinuation that Obama is going to make this country socialist is nothing more than fear mongering. Now I know some of you right wingers will say otherwise, but when 2016 comes, I'm going to come back to this thread and point out how ridiculous that claim was.

Also, I don't love Obama. I do, however, feel that he better represents my values than Williard Romney.
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Really like socialized medicine, really outlandish right? Plus I'm from a socialist country so I can tell what that idiot is trying to do.
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Ppl don't care, to most this just means that they can put out two hands instead of just one. Jbeck I honestly hope you are right. But after this election, I won't blame Obama for anything anymore....I'll be blaming the ppl that voted him into office. Matter a fact, when taxes increase (and they will) I'm going to defer mine to Obama supporters...i mean it only seems right b/c he's not my President. The election might as well been for Prom King and Queen b/c thats the standards ppl used to vote. I did learn one important thing though, Society is a joke, tolerance is a joke. Never heard so many ppl complain about racism and then the same person harasses and belittles any African American that doesn't vote for Obama. Vote for whoever you want to, but don't threaten ppl that are voting based on their beliefs instead of just trying to be cool.
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hope is what he says, lets hope it comes true for the better...come the following years ahead if it gets worst the other half will for sure rub it in there faces...


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From his speech

"I have never been more hopeful about America. And I ask you to sustain that hope. I'm not talking about blind optimism, the kind of hope that just ignores the enormity of the tasks ahead or the roadblocks that stand in our path. I'm not talking about the wishful idealism that allows us to just sit on the sidelines or shirk from a fight.I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting."


I laughed hard at the underlined part b/c that is exactly how he got elected "despite all the evidence to the contrary". Ppl are still ignorant enough to HOPE that he will keep his promise this year.
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he's not my President.
This comment is exactly what is wrong with politics in our country right now. President Obama is the president of EVERY SINGLE CITIZEN of the United States of America. I only hope that the republicans in Congress don't feel the same way, because if they do, and both sides aren't willing to compromise, they will get nothing done.
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No matter who you are or who you voted for this doesn't make sense.
Blue Obama
Red Romney

Even if the tables were turned I wouldn't argue with this. This needs to change.
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No matter who you are or who you voted for this doesn't make sense.
Blue Obama
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Even if the tables were turned I wouldn't argue with this. This needs to change.
This is why I did not waste my time on the presidential election. Popular vote means nothing, that mean your vote means nothing.

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This comment is exactly what is wrong with politics in our country right now. President Obama is the president of EVERY SINGLE CITIZEN of the United States of America. I only hope that the republicans in Congress don't feel the same way, because if they do, and both sides aren't willing to compromise, they will get nothing done.
So am I supposed to be ok that a man is allowed to lie about his promises. Or that normally ppl get fired for doing poor jobs, but he gets re-elected. Or here is something that I have still yet to have an Obama supporter comment on.....is it ok that if I give out classified info I go to jail, but he can release classified info to help his campaign and nothing happens...how come he isn't in jail. Or is it ok that the education system here is obviously crap and no one knows the basic principles of economics. I'm sorry if I have morals and standards that I stick by. Why am I supposed to support someone like that? And you talk about the gov't being tied up...is it my fault that ppl are so stupid that they vote a straight demo/repub ballot. Once again the votor's fault. I went down line by line and voted, I didn't just do a straight demo ballot so I could be one of the cool kids and say I voted for Obama. Sorry but I'm not claiming that DA
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No matter who you are or who you voted for this doesn't make sense.
Blue Obama
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Even if the tables were turned I wouldn't argue with this. This needs to change.
Obama won the popular vote. The majority of those red counties have very small populations.
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That has changed throughout the day. Romney was winning this morning. Either way he has 4 more years and I hope to not hear anymore, it's Bush's fault.
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According to the tally here, http://www.bing.com/elections, Obama is ahead by almost 3 million votes. I dont' think Florida is called yet, but I believe most of the ballots are counted there. Not sure where you seen Romney ahead.
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CBS.com had romney ahead pop vote at 11:00am. Doesn't matter. Either way he needs to be the president not an occupier of a chair. Do what you said you would do 4 years ago. Start with Cutting the deficit in half, not from 4 years ago. From now. That includes the 5 Trillion added to it. That wasn't run on this campaign just left over from 4 years ago, I just added that in because that was something that was overlooked last term.
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