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Old 10-15-2012, 05:19 AM   #1
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No one has posted this? 110-10 Express lanes

http://www.neontommy.com/news/2012/0...way-toll-lanes


"Metro converted 11 miles of existing carpool lanes on I-110 and 14 miles on I-10 to ExpressLanes; lanes that buses, motorcycles, vanpools and carpools can still use without tolls, and solo drivers will be able to use if they purchase a transponder and pay tolls.
Both carpool and solo drivers using the lanes must have a transponder and FasTrak account. Automobile Club of Southern California (AAA) customers can receive a 20 percent discount if they purchase the devices through AAA."


Been reading about this... if you're on a motorcycle and you want to use the carpool lane, we need to have a transponder now.

Pardon my french but F--- that. Where the hell do you expect me to mount this thing where it won't fall off after attachment and removal every day I use the freeway.

Bikes shouldn't need one, it's obvious we're HOV, there shouldn't be any reason we need to buy one of these damn things.
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Old 10-17-2012, 07:19 PM   #2
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I too ride the 110 and 10... I stuck mine under my passenger seat. The damn cameras still take my picture every time I drive under them. I spoke with Metro today and they say it is because they are still testing the system... I declare shenanigans! Anyway, they told me that the cameras will take photos of every who passes and only send notices to those whose vehicles are not registered to a transponder. Hope this info helps. You can always call 511 from SoCal and and for Metro Express lanes to speak with someone.
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Old 10-17-2012, 07:47 PM   #3
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We have something like that in IL, I have my plates registered online and never carry the transponder with me since it never works anyways, I sat in the manual lane once with it in my pocket while trying to get it to read for like 20 seconds while the attendant stared at me hating my guts and not believing me.
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:47 PM   #4
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carpool used to be toll free going over the bridges, but they made it a requirement to have fastrak, and started charging $2.50. i have 4 total vehicles registered under my fastrak account. so there's no way i'm carrying my transponder with me. they take pics of the plates, and debit my account anyways, so it all works out here.
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Old 10-17-2012, 10:35 PM   #5
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So thats why there are the cameras. I just throw up a peace sign before it takes the picture. LOL when i'm on the 10.

wait so do we need to get fastrack? or no? for bikes

" buses, motorcycles, vanpools and carpools can still use without tolls"

I'm taking it by this sentence that we do not need to worry about this on our bikes...

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Old 10-18-2012, 01:46 PM   #6
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Been trying to figure that out. it says we need a transponder but we won't be charged from what I've gathered.

Can't quite figure it out... I think I'm going to go to CHP here off the 110 and I'll post up what the say.
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Old 10-19-2012, 01:15 PM   #7
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Everyone who rides in the fastrak lanes "is supposed" to have a transponder. However, this is a serious "work in progress" experiment here in LA. Every night I ride on the 110 from LA to the Southbay. I have the thing under my seat and every night with the cameras flashing, it is like a fricken disco out there! So to answer your question, yes, motorcycles need one. BUT... I am uncertain as to the ramifications if you do not. I know they will send out a series of notices when they take your photo and have no transponder associated with your bike. Not sure if they will start implementing fines for not having one they. Again, I assume this is a major "learn as they go" situation.

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Old 11-03-2012, 07:14 PM   #8
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What if your plate is tucked hard. No real need for a transponder

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Old 11-04-2012, 03:58 AM   #9
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What if your plate is tucked hard. No real need for a transponder

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Except they are patrolling it quite a bit, apparently. If they see/get a report or however they do it, that your bike is not transponding, I imagine your ass is getting lit up!
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Old 11-04-2012, 10:29 AM   #10
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Not sure what sets off your cameras in Cali but here in IL we have whats called IPASS and on the interstates they have what is called open road tolling. It is wide open lanes on the expressway with cameras for each lane. What triggers the camera is a magnetic loop placed in the road just like when you come up to a stop light to trigger the signal change. I always ride the white line between lanes where the loop is not placed and have never been charged for a toll. I do get charged when entering the interstate as there is not enough room to avoid the loop. Just some food for thought.
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Old 11-04-2012, 02:05 PM   #11
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^exactly.

what about just riding double white line whenever your on the lane
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Old 11-04-2012, 02:10 PM   #12
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How does the FasTrak® transponder work?

A FasTrak® transponder is a small radio-frequency device that adheres to the inside of a vehicle’s windshield and can be read by a sensor mounted over the roadway. Prior to starting a trip, the driver will indicate the number of occupants in the vehicle by moving the switch on the transponder to the appropriate setting (1, 2, 3+). As the vehicle enters the Metro ExpressLanes, an antenna will read the transponder and a toll/discount will be automatically charged to the vehicle owner’s FasTrak account.
wow wtf is this
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Old 11-04-2012, 10:26 PM   #13
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No kidding.

I spoke to CHP down in Torrance, they had no idea and they claim that they don't patrol that area, that's central LA CHP.
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Old 11-05-2012, 01:37 AM   #14
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i for one will not be purchasing said item

i dont see the worth in something like this

the transponder is 25$ and they charge you in 40$ increments
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:40 AM   #15
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It should work in your jacket pocket. I put my NYS Thruway transponder in my pocket when I was in NY and it would work fine. It wouldnt register under my seat though.
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http://www.neontommy.com/news/2012/0...way-toll-lanes


"Metro converted 11 miles of existing carpool lanes on I-110 and 14 miles on I-10 to ExpressLanes; lanes that buses, motorcycles, vanpools and carpools can still use without tolls, and solo drivers will be able to use if they purchase a transponder and pay tolls.
Both carpool and solo drivers using the lanes must have a transponder and FasTrak account.
Am Ia reading his wrong. They specifically said motorcycles can still use the lane without tolls. The transporter is for solo and carpool DRIVER. Doesn't sound like it applies to motorcycle. It's better if you check the HOV site directly for answers. I've been riding in HOV lanes for years without fees, transponder, camera, or tickets.
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Am Ia reading his wrong. They specifically said motorcycles can still use the lane without tolls. The transporter is for solo and carpool DRIVER. Doesn't sound like it applies to motorcycle. It's better if you check the HOV site directly for answers. I've been riding in HOV lanes for years without fees, transponder, camera, or tickets.

Are you sure you're in FasTrak lanes?

This whole Metro thing they are doing is an all-new system. Of course we always could use HOV before, I don't think any of us were worried about that. It's that these cameras are set to take your pic and apparently ANYONE who goes through them needs some kind of transponder. I thought I linked it, but I had one that said Van pools, buses, and motorcycles need to carry a transponder, though they will not be charged.
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