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Old 11-16-2012, 06:55 PM   #1
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Hostes is shutting down!!!! THERE WILL BE NO MORE TWINKIES!!!! OR DING DONGS!!!


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Kinda sad right? Good news is that if you hurry you can scoop up all the twinkies you can find on the shelf and hoard them as a lifetime supply. They'll stay good for almost forever.
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Wtf???????? Ahhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!! You do you lie yeff!!!!
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Hostess to close, lay off 18,500 after 'crippling' union fight | Fox News

A small union's stubbornness in contract talks with Hostess is being blamed for the shutdown of one of America's snack food icons, the loss of 18,500 jobs just before the holiday season and much-needed tax revenue from hundreds of plants and shops across the country.

The privately-held company had reached a deal with the Teamsters, but a smaller union representing bakery workers refused to agree to concessions, prompting the mass layoffs and closing down of hundreds of plants, bakeries and delivery routes. That prompted harsh words from both the company and from Teamsters officials.

"We deeply regret the necessity of today's decision, but we do not have the financial resources to weather an extended nationwide strike," Chief Executive Gregory Rayburn said in a statement. "Hostess Brands will move promptly to lay off most of its 18,500-member workforce and focus on selling its assets to the highest bidders."

The company said it will continue to ship out its well-known products until inventory runs out.

The national strike by members of the Bakery, Confectionary, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International Union (BCTGM) that began last week decimated the 82-year-old company’s ability to produce and deliver products at roughly 12 of its 33 plants. The company announced earlier in the week that the ax would fall on Friday if the strikers didn’t get back to work, but the union didn’t blink. BCTGM President Frank Hurt said Thursday that the crisis was the "result of nearly a decade of financial and operational mismanagement" and charged management was scapegoating workers to allow the Wall Street investors who own Hostess to sell.

Calls seeking comment from Hurt were not returned early Friday.

Marty Zimmerman, secretary-treasurer for BCTGM Local 85, told Fox40 from a Sacramento picket line early Friday that workers had been at “wits end” with Hostess brass.

“Well, the mindset is we’re standing strong, absolutely,” Zimmerman told the station. “I mean, they’ve taken our pensions away, we’ve had seven CEOs in the last 10 years; this company has been so mismanaged. Really, we’re at our wits end and enough is enough”

The Irving, Texas-based company had already reached an agreement on pay and benefit cuts with its largest union, the International Brotherhood of Teamsters. On Thursday, Teamsters officials blasted the smaller union for not seeking a “solution” in the process or to engage in negotiations.

“The BCTGM chose a different path, as is their prerogative, to not substantively look for a solution or engage in the process,” the statement read. “BCTGM members were told there were better solutions than the final offer, although Judge Drain stated in his decision in bankruptcy court that no such solutions exist. Without complete information, BCTGM members voted by voice votes in union halls. The BCTGM reported that over 90 percent rejected the final offer and three of its units ratified the final offer.”

In a letter to employees posted on the company’s website, Rayburn said all employees would eventually lose their jobs, some sooner than others.

"Many people have worked incredibly long and hard to keep this from happening, but now Hostess Brands has no other alternative than to begin the process of winding down and preparing for the sale of our iconic brands," Rayburn’s letter read. “As you know, for many months the Company has been working with our unions, lenders and other stakeholders to reach a consensual resolution to legacy costs and labor contracts. Despite everyone’s considerable efforts to move Hostess out of its restructuring, when we began implementing the Company’s last, best and final offer, the Bakers Union chose to stage a crippling strike.”

Because the company is privately held, its financials were not available. But has struggled for several years, with some blaming America’s increasing appetite for healthier fare. The company sought concessions from employees, but instead got a costly strike that further crippled it, according to officials, who told a federal bankruptcy court it would lose up to $9.5 million from Nov. 9 to Nov. 19 in lost sales and increased costs. The company has cancelled all orders in process and said any baked goods currently in transit would be returned to shippers.

“These losses and other factors, including increased vendor payment terms contraction, have resulted in a significant weakening of the debtors’ cash position and, if continued, would soon result in the debtors completely running out of cash,” the filing read.

Hostess will now sell its popular brands like Ding Dongs, Ho Ho’s and Sno Balls, along with the closure of 565 distribution centers, 570 bakery outlet stores and roughly 5,550 delivery routes.

Lenders have agreed to allow Hostess to continue to access $75 million in financing put in place at the start of the bankruptcy cases to fund the sale and wind-down process, subject to U.S. Bankruptcy Court approval.

BCTGM workers began striking at some Hostess production facilities without notifying Teamsters officials on Nov. 9, the Teamsters said.

“This unannounced action put Teamster members in the difficult position of facing picket lines without knowing their right to honor such a line without being disciplined,” the statement continued.
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I 110% agree. Their usefulness died a while ago, workers have so many rights its crazy what the union workers cry for. Seems anyone still in a union is just a chronic complainer who wants more than realistically possible. They can never be happy.


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They're unhealthy anyway. So bleh. Good.

I might stock up on some & sell them when there's no more twinkies. Triple the price babay
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I tried to get some and the shelves had been ransacked!!! I will never have a true twinkie again :(
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Old 11-17-2012, 02:11 AM   #10
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they probably have a **** ton of stock if they're so hard for cash. inventory comes at a high cost and we all know Twinkies shelf life is infinite. I bet twinkies will sell for the next 10 years before they run out. This is all speculation though
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I could import some from Canada. Apparently we're still going to make then up here


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The union in this case ruined it for everyone. My question is, do the people that went on strike really think that they would be better off with no job then having to take some cuts up front?

Walmart is in a similar position right now. People are upset because they have to work on Thanksgiving and want to walk out and protest.

Do they really think that they are the only people that work on Thanksgiving? Was there a clause in their hiring papers that said they would have holidays off?

I do not mean any disrespect to people that work at Walmart ( I used to stock shelves and work holidays, time and a half baby) but their job is not that hard. I say anyone that walks gets fired on the sport and they bring in people that actually want to work. Everyone feels as if they have all of these entitlements. Are economy will never be what it was. The unions need to stop living in the past.

The unions are involved again making collective poor decisions as usual.

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FYI, Twinkies DO NOT have an infinite shelf life.

They last way longer than most baked goods because they have no dairy products in them, but they go bad after about a month.
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import and start ur own liquor store and sell nothing but TWINKIES lol
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FYI, Twinkies DO NOT have an infinite shelf life.

They last way longer than most baked goods because they have no dairy products in them, but they go bad after about a month.

Steve Ettlinger, author of the book "Twinkie, Deconstructed," says Twinkies get hard, but that doesn't mean you can't eat them.

"I've got some that are 8 years old. They are hard but they are not spoiled," he said.

So Twinkies could last 30 years, but they just might not be that fun to eat. And one thing different about Twinkies is they don't rot.

Ettlinger says there are around 39 ingredients in Twinkies and none of them are fresh. It's stuff like Sodium Stearoyl Lactylate, Soy Lecithin and Cellulose Gum.

There is some flour, processed whey and each Twinkie may have about 1/500th of an egg in it, but the ingredients are stable enough that they may get stale but they don't seem to rot.

So if you want to stock up now go ahead, but just make sure you've got a strong jaw.
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i haven't ever had a honest to god twinkie, i guess if i can find one i need to try it.
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I blame Obama. He bailed everybody else out. He coulda gave hostess a couple billion of our tax dollars.
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I was just messing around anyway, I never thought they were infinite but that is a popular rumor
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Yep, everyone has seen the family guy episode, it must be true :)
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Yep, everyone has seen the family guy episode, it must be true :)
haha i like the Simpsons episode where homer keeps a twinkie long enough for it to become alcohol... and he just drinks it with a straw...
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I heard on the radio yesterday morning that Hostess was borrowing back the $3/hour in union dues that they were paying their employees. They also said that the current CEO gave himself a raise from $750k to over $2M. Perhaps the past CEO's greed was one of the company's greatest downfalls. At the end of the news story it was said that Hostess is selling off all of its machinery as well as it's brand names... So most likely there are going to be twinkies in the future but it won't be the same

(on a side note, supposedly the world was supposed to end in 2012. The world pretty much ended in the movie Zombieland and all that "Tallahassee" - Woody Harrelson - wanted to look for were... TWINKIES!!!)
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I heard yesterday that twinkie got a stay of execution.
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i still have yet to find a twinkie... i must hit the back road gas stations!
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