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we dont suggest leaving a tender on the battery for prolonged periods of time, but we have two years of testing on them and they have been fine.
I'd just like to be clear on this.. I have a Battery Tender 12V Junior. If I was to leave that on overnight (Lets say most nights or an extended period of time over winter for a worst-case/emergency scenario), that would cause problems? If this battery was to lose its charge, could my tender be used to recharge it back for normal use.
Sorry for some (possibly) dumb questions, but I am currently looking around for alternatives to stock. I did look on the website but figured I could get some added clarification here.
I'd just like to be clear on this.. I have a Battery Tender 12V Junior. If I was to leave that on overnight (Lets say most nights or an extended period of time over winter for a worst-case/emergency scenario), that would cause problems? If this battery was to lose its charge, could my tender be used to recharge it back for normal use.
Sorry for some (possibly) dumb questions, but I am currently looking around for alternatives to stock. I did look on the website but figured I could get some added clarification here.
Like I believe Brian stated before, you can charge it as long as it hasn't dropped below a certain level where the cells become damaged. What ISNT recommended is to leave them charging when they are fully already charged as this will also damage them. Unless the tender can be set for those specs and to stop charging upon reaching a certain level, I wouldn't recommend to "set it and forget it" during the winter.
I'm sure he'll chime in soon. If anything, you could just get a proper charger like I did, which he offers on his site as well. And the balancing feature on it is nice to have too.
Like I believe Brian stated before, you can charge it as long as it hasn't dropped below a certain level where the cells become damaged. What ISNT recommended is to leave them charging when they are fully already charged as this will also damage them. Unless the tender can be set for those specs and to stop charging upon reaching a certain level, I wouldn't recommend to "set it and forget it" during the winter.
I'm sure he'll chime in soon. If anything, you could just get a proper charger like I did, which he offers on his site as well. And the balancing feature on it is nice to have too.
He did mention a little about this but I just wanted more details if possible. I did see he does offer a charger and i'll be looking into that tomorrow some more.
But....
Nevermind about all of this though, I think... The website says "LiFePo4" which I'm prettty sure is some type of lithium iron battery. The tender says its designed for "lead-acid, flooded or sealed maintenance free batteries (AGM and gel)" so I believe its also safe to assume that the battery tender I have really shouldn't be used for extended periods of time with the MOTY but some kinds of "emergency" situations it would most likely work.
He did mention a little about this but I just wanted more details if possible. I did see he does offer a charger and i'll be looking into that tomorrow some more.
But....
Nevermind about all of this though, I think... The website says "LiFePo4" which I'm prettty sure is some type of lithium iron battery. The tender says its designed for "lead-acid, flooded or sealed maintenance free batteries (AGM and gel)" so I believe its also safe to assume that the battery tender I have really shouldn't be used for extended periods of time with the MOTY but some kinds of "emergency" situations it would most likely work.
When I didnt have the charger, I would only hook up the tender maybe twice during the winter for a little bit just to keep it from dropping too low (the battery has a meter). I learned the hard way with the 1st one I got (the white one) when the charge dropped too low and damaged the cells.
A question for BB,
Would I be able to remove the meter from the one battery and plug it into the new one with the balancing plug to see its current charge level w/o using the charger?
Both plugs appear to be the same but I wanted ask you before experimenting.
And by doing so, could the plug with the meter be used for balancing the older the battery if I take off the meter?
I hope this makes sense... i need to go to sleep
Just wanted to bump my thread with a further review and my impressions of this battery so far:
It definately seems to turn over the engine a little quicker than an OEM lead acid.
I used this battery since the riding season started. some mornings I rode to work and it was 2'C out (about 36'f ???) the battery started the bike just like it was 25'C out (85'F???) No trouble at all!!!
The hard case makes the battery a bit taller than his shrink wrap bettery and the OEM battery strap actually works to keep the battery in one place (could be a bit tighter, but it does the job)
All in all: I love this new hard case battery.
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Would the 12 cell battery fit in our 600rr bikes ?
Edit- looks like it will.
I think I will go with the 12 cell battery instead. Due to the fact that I have a 12v socket install, and also need the extra juice for my heated gears, and my alarm .
the 12 fits in the oem case the QD is a bit tight in the battery box, so i think if you are set on the 12 id go with the OEM case standard polarity.
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I have purchased 3 of his 8 cell batteries in the past. 1 is currently in my 600RR track bike, 1 was included in a bike sale and 1 is in my new 1000RR. Absolutely love them and have never had an issue. They are very lightweight, much smaller than oem, always hold a charge, have never had to be put on a tender and they crank the engine over so much better.
When I purchased my new 1000RR, I made sure to grab my older MOTY battery out of the 600 that I traded in. When I went to swap it in to the new bike, I noticed that the 1000 had a setup which needed the posts to be opposite of the 600. The terminal wires on the bike are so short that there was no way to make it work while still sitting the battery securely.
I messaged Brian about if he sold a battery with terminals that were opposite and instead of a reply with a new part number and price, I received a great response that I was not ready for! He offered to dissemble my battery, swap the posts and re wrap it. All he asked was that I ship it to him! SOLD!
In less than a weeks time, I shipped the battery back, he received it, did the required modification and it was back in my hands! He also tested each cell and had a perfect status report to provide me. After over 2 years and a lot of use, my battery is still in perfect condition.
Customer for life... Highly recommend this battery as a replacement over stock for both street and track use!
first of all Omarko, be sure you read the instructions. the LiFe chemistry has limitations. these are not the snake oil products that the other companies are making them out to be, they have certain limitations. the 2 things that they dont do as well as lead batteries is resistance to over and under charging. if you allow the battery to go flat, you have put the battery in a situation of shorted. at this point the chemistry starts to change physically inside the cells and they are no longer capable of holding a charge.
With proper maintenace (meaning if the bike is going to sit for more than a month) disconnect the battery's + terminal. Also insure your bike doesnt have an parasitic draws as these will deplete the amp hours as the bike sits and will cause the short situation above.
if you leave your key on and your bikes lights are dimming, the best thing to do is ride the bike or put the battery on a battery tender Jr or similar 12v smart car charger. this will insure the battery doest start that physical change. if you left it on over night... there probably isnt much youll be able to do about it. This information is true of ALL light weight batteries available and slightly true of even lead batteries.
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