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Old 10-18-2012, 03:42 PM   #61
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no she has been riding for a few years now, it was just riders misjudge and mistakes happen.
Doesn't make a difference and it shows. A few things I see wrong with this video..

Why is she out in front..? She's on a 250 and it appears that the ride/route is unfamiliar to her.

Riding in the middle of the lane before a corner..? 3yrs obviously doing it wrong, especially on the street.

It appears like there was added pressure, since she was out front, to set the pace for the sportbikes behind her. Thing is, it should've never happened in the first place.

Glad she is alright. It doesn't matter how fast she was going or that she was in a corner, she was doing it wrong and reacted like MOST females do in a panic situation. Legs out, hands up..BOOM! Seen it too many damn times on the range, rookie mistake.

Could've been horrible..
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Glad she's OK! Seemed like quite an impact!

One of my riding instructors (who used to be a racer) told me that when inexperienced riders take one or both feet off the foot pegs, it often lands them in trouble. Feet on the pegs allow the lower body security needed to ensure that your upper body is loose and you're smooth to counter steer and roll on the throttle. When an inexperienced rider start putting feet down, they teeter side to side on the seat and become ineffective at the controls. Not to mention they usually look down towards their feet to see how far off the ground they are. Feet up, chin up, etc. Just what he said.

Also, I don't mean to sound critical, given that I am a relatively new rider, but is it such a good idea to remain so close to (and sometimes straddle) the median, particularly coming up to and through left curves? Particularly when you add lean into the equation? All it takes is one boy racer or a driver with little experience/cold tires/excessive speed/FWD under steer/all of the above to run wide around one of those. Just a thought.

Happy to see her walk it off. It could've gone a lot worse.
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Doesn't make a difference and it shows. A few things I see wrong with this video..

Why is she out in front..? She's on a 250 and it appears that the ride/route is unfamiliar to her.

Riding in the middle of the lane before a corner..? 3yrs obviously doing it wrong, especially on the street.

It appears like there was added pressure, since she was out front, to set the pace for the sportbikes behind her. Thing is, it should've never happened in the first place.

Glad she is alright. It doesn't matter how fast she was going or that she was in a corner, she was doing it wrong and reacted like MOST females do in a panic situation. Legs out, hands up..BOOM! Seen it too many damn times on the range, rookie mistake.

Could've been horrible..

i totally agree with u mate,

the whole group and us was at the top ,. and as the other were putting gear to take off , she just rush a bit and went, thats when i chase her down, i think yes i might had put some pressure, but in no way was i tailgating her, i think if i would had lead it, and she was behind, this may had never happen. also the group was not behind her yet, just here and i.group came a little bit after like 2 minutes or so..
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Glad she's OK! Seemed like quite an impact!

One of my riding instructors (who used to be a racer) told me that when inexperienced riders take one or both feet off the foot pegs, it often lands them in trouble. Feet on the pegs allow the lower body security needed to ensure that your upper body is loose and you're smooth to counter steer and roll on the throttle. When an inexperienced rider start putting feet down, they teeter side to side on the seat and become ineffective at the controls. Not to mention they usually look down towards their feet to see how far off the ground they are. Feet up, chin up, etc. Just what he said.

Also, I don't mean to sound critical, given that I am a relatively new rider, but is it such a good idea to remain so close to (and sometimes straddle) the median, particularly coming up to and through left curves?
Particularly when you add lean into the equation? All it takes is one boy racer or a driver with little experience/cold tires/excessive speed/FWD under steer/all of the above to run wide around one of those. Just a thought.

Happy to see her walk it off. It could've gone a lot worse.

its safer to stay in the middleof your lane
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I call those guardrails she hit "Death Rails".

Glad your friend was ok. Definitely not riding smart on that particular situation. She (was it a girl?) got spooked when the first truck came out of that turn, and the 2nd vehicle did her in and panicked.

Could've been a lot worse. Someone up there is watching out for your friend.
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I call those guardrails she hit "Death Rails".

Glad your friend was ok. Definitely not riding smart on that particular situation. She (was it a girl?) got spooked when the first truck came out of that turn, and the 2nd vehicle did her in and panicked.

Could've been a lot worse. Someone up there is watching out for your friend.
true, it would had just been a crazy low side or something if those rails aint there, but there was some depth drop behind those rails tho..lol

yes i thinked she got spooked by the second car, they caught her off guard
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I call those guardrails she hit "Death Rails".
Or "Life Saving Rails" ...cause in this case there is a cliff on the other side. Not sure if the Rails help or hurt him more all we know is he's one lucky SOB. And I nearly crap my pants aswell...


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^ That was bad but could have been way worse. He's lucky his head didn't slide under the guard rail and then slam into one of the pillars. He could have broken his neck or been decapitated.
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I kept seeing shadows go by, then water runoff...sucks for sure.
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I kept seeing shadows go by, then water runoff...sucks for sure.
Yup, they were doing so good. I think it was the water... Sucks balls
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Just making light that guard rails is neither friend or foe.

Alot of factors play into the crash: water run off, got spooked, straighted up the bike, target fixated but all boils down to RIDER ERROR. Rookie mistakes happen and we all hope for the best outcome when it does.
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thats is a very amazing view

and im glad she is ok
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it's part of advanced road riding to move outwards from a curv so you see more around the bend quicker, but yes your line has to be sacrificed for oncoming traffic, on a straight im usually just off middle closer to centre, so im away from things running out into the road and have a few more split seconds to react, again if a truck came or anything i'd be back to centre(and for a truck brace for potential wind blast from the trucks side after it passes)

it's all hazard perception isn't it, if i see water i slow down regardless if i know i can get over fine, you never know, what if loose sand is under the water, or a big hole that the water has filled...
Deff agreed. Always got to take pre cautions
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i totally agree with u mate,

the whole group and us was at the top ,. and as the other were putting gear to take off , she just rush a bit and went, thats when i chase her down, i think yes i might had put some pressure, but in no way was i tailgating her, i think if i would had lead it, and she was behind, this may had never happen. also the group was not behind her yet, just here and i.group came a little bit after like 2 minutes or so..
That clears several things up and makes more sense as to how/why it happen now. Thanks for the further explanation.

While there may have been added pressure from you, unwarranted as you were trying to slow her down, seems like it was just compounded by her with the rest of the riders being ahead by her own doing. Something I've noticed when teaching, women typically put ridiculous pressure on themselves while riding motorcycles. Always concerned if they are doing it right, holding others back, what other think of them..it's crazy. I try to calm them down by telling them, "Hey..you are a chic on a bike, that's freaking AWESOME already! Now you just need to focus on enjoying it."

I thought men were competitive..holy cow was I wrong..lol Women are not only competitive with other men and women, they are also competitive with themselves, all in the same instance. Crazy!
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how is she recovering, mentaly? has she made peace or is it an issue for her?
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how is she recovering, mentaly? has she made peace or is it an issue for her?
She's been fine lately. Everyone's just depressed cause we can't ride no more
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I almost hit a guard rail too. Took my foot off too and everything. Luckily I was able to control the bike. I was going way faster than her. It would have been a fatality. Thank God !
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I almost hit a guard rail too. Took my foot off too and everything. Luckily I was able to control the bike. I was going way faster than her. It would have been a fatality. Thank God !


Oooh.. Carefull mate. Ain't nothing fun hitting a guard rail.
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Who ever was driving with the camera drives like crap. You don't cross the yellow line like that.

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Ouch. That was a hard hit. Glad to hear everyone was ok
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looked way more scary being right behind her!! kapoboom
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