Eh we all BS our views. He probably DID make an improper turn and he probably DID try to evade. Yes, that cop was a fat shlub but without the prior footage I'm not taking sides.
Eh we all BS our views. He probably DID make an improper turn and he probably DID try to evade. Yes, that cop was a fat shlub but without the prior footage I'm not taking sides.
You sound like a cop.
If that's true they would probably have gave him a ticket.
Why do some of them officers act this way ? Do they expect the biker to just get down & bow to them or what the guy reacted to the cop's approach and being that he was worried for his well being he was defensive and who would not knowing what the biker nerves went thru he should have approached him in a different manner not being all tough hung ho like
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Kid sounded like an arrogant little jerk off to me.
I am not siding with the officer, but there is no reason for that kid to mouth off like that. I don't care if the cop almost hit him or not. There is no proof of what happened before what we saw, so we are in no place to comment about whether or not the cop almost hit him.
I give the cop credit for not smacking the sh!t out of that little punk.
His parents ought to be smacked too. He should have been taught to respect officers of the law as well as his elders, which that cop was both. Same problem with the kids at my job, disrespectful little punks that think the world owes them something.
I am sure a lot of you younger guys will have something to say about what I just said, just be careful not to further prove me right.
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As others have said, we didn't see what happened before he was pulled over so it's difficult to side either way.
Sounds like a kid who was trying to be a punk and an officer who was on a bit of a power trip. Common stuff.
The cop definitely had an attitude, but then again, in his mind this kid on the bike tried to run from him. Whether or not that is the truth does not matter, the cop is going to act in the way he feels. That is just being human, can't fault him for that.
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Respect is a two way street.
Respect is not a 2 way street. Children are supposed to respect adults, bot the other way around. Law officers, fire fighters, military, bosses......anybody that is in a position of authority deserves respect. I bet anybody who tries to act like a smart ass or tough guy to a cop will beg for that same cop when he gets innocently shot in a drive by shooting. I bet that kid wouldnt talk to that cop if the cop was writing a report about his bike being stolen.
Granted, cops are not always right, and there is nothing wrong with debating there correctness, but it can be done with respect.
I have gotten off of many of tickets, in my camaro, where my driving privileges should have been taken away indefinitely on the spot, but because I was respectful to the cop I didn't get any tickets, or tickets for much lesser charges. I NEVER heard of anybody being let off because they argued with a cop and proved the cop wrong.
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The biker reacted to the way he was approached that is my own 2 cents
As did the cop.
But again, we have no idea what words were exchanged before the camera started rolling.
That is what cracks me up about videos like this, and people calling others heros.
We have NO IDEA what happened earlier, the kid could be totally right. The cop could be power tripping, but how do we know if the kid or the cop was the first one to raise their voice.
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Respect is not a 2 way street. Children are supposed to respect adults, bot the other way around. Law officers, fire fighters, military, bosses......anybody that is in a position of authority deserves respect. I bet anybody who tries to act like a smart ass or tough guy to a cop will beg for that same cop when he gets innocently shot in a drive by shooting. I bet that kid wouldnt talk to that cop if the cop was writing a report about his bike being stolen.
Granted, cops are not always right, and there is nothing wrong with debating there correctness, but it can be done with respect.
I have gotten off of many of tickets, in my camaro, where my driving privileges should have been taken away indefinitely on the spot, but because I was respectful to the cop I didn't get any tickets, or tickets for much lesser charges. I NEVER heard of anybody being let off because they argued with a cop and proved the cop wrong.
We can agree to disagree about respect. I was raised by two very strict Indian parents and trust me, I know about respect. But in today's society when you deal with power hungry LEOs (not all, of course), I choose to use discretion. I believe respect is given UNTIL EARNED. Immediately a few seconds into the clip you see the officer exerting his power thinking he's a badass. That's when I lose respect. I also think if authority figures like cops are given respect by default then it does more to inflate their egos resulting in more power trips. I'm not saying be rude to them, but I prefer to be neutral with them and see where it goes in the beginning.
I respect a lot of cops who were courteous to me in the past, even if it resulted in a ticket. It's all about demeanor.
Without knowing what happened prior to the video it's hard to say and we're all just speculating
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But yeah, if a cop approaches me with an attitude after I try to be polite and respectful to him I will in return have an attitude right back with him. But I have never been put in that situation.
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I bet anybody who tries to act like a smart ass or tough guy to a cop will beg for that same cop when he gets innocently shot in a drive by shooting. I bet that kid wouldnt talk to that cop if the cop was writing a report about his bike being stolen.
Ehh I didn't read this whole thread but this comment kinda struck me odd. We pay their checks. Soo.. If I got shot, a cop better aid me or I want my money back haha. It's ok to get a little frustrated if they really are wrong. I mean if nothing else look at the cop in the white shirt. He thinks "you have the right to remain silent" is just something you say before taking someone to jail. He doesn't even know what it means!
Ehh I didn't read this whole thread but this comment kinda struck me odd. We pay their checks. Soo.. If I got shot, a cop better aid me or I want my money back haha. It's ok to get a little frustrated if they really are wrong. I mean if nothing else look at the cop in the white shirt. He thinks "you have the right to remain silent" is just something you say before taking someone to jail. He doesn't even know what it means!
I respect most cops and don't even argue with them. I make them feel like they are always right and in control like the sociopath they really are.
As respecting your elders **** that ****. If u ain't family and your a douche I'll treat u the same. I live in Florida and if the old people had their way their way they would hit a motorcyclist every day of the week. And their greed is so bad they would send u to the gas chambers and pick out our gold fillings.
My two cents life is a prick, but there's a douchbag every day trying to kill you.
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Sigh another hard ass camera cop ruling commando...
Tired of these small penis videos showing how "bad a**" and "awesome" guys are talking back to officers...
Thought that f the police wanna b drama ended in 5th grade but thanks to YouTube I now know better...
Your so cool bro I wish I was you talking to a cop like that.. Man I wish I was that tuff. Oh wait till you get your bike stolen then cry to the cops "do something!!!"
Ehh I didn't read this whole thread but this comment kinda struck me odd. We pay their checks. Soo.. If I got shot, a cop better aid me or I want my money back haha. It's ok to get a little frustrated if they really are wrong. I mean if nothing else look at the cop in the white shirt. He thinks "you have the right to remain silent" is just something you say before taking someone to jail. He doesn't even know what it means!
Yup. The officer used a lot of foul language for what appears to be a very minor traffic infraction - no need for that and no surprise about how the biker responded. Actually, I'd say the biker remained very polite and respectful considering the treatment he received.
The officer's working and it's his job to be a professional, meaning that he responds appropriately to the demands of the situation. Whether that means helping someone who's hurt, explaining the law or taking down a criminal, it's his or her duty. He should try to put his emotions and prejudices aside. Not easy when you face a lot of idiots every day, but it's still his job.
That said, we don't know what happened before that and the rider admitted to flipping him off.
Sigh another hard ass camera cop ruling commando...
Tired of these small penis videos showing how "bad a**" and "awesome" guys are talking back to officers...
Thought that f the police wanna b drama ended in 5th grade but thanks to YouTube I now know better...
Your so cool bro I wish I was you talking to a cop like that.. Man I wish I was that tuff. Oh wait till you get your bike stolen then cry to the cops "do something!!!"
by doing something do you mean filling out a stolen bike report, and throwing it in a big stack of all the other cases they did F all to help solve.
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I agree that we don't know what happened because we came into the discussion late, however, the the officer's comment "people like you that...." speaks volumes. I've been pulled over most of the time for being a "people" of some sort due to; age, race, style of dress, etc., and have received this same treatment and given the same reaction. My legitimate stops have been cordial and respectful, as my demeanor always is, and those stops ended amicably and with a ticket whereas the the others end abruptly with a stern warning. Just my 2 cents