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Old 11-19-2012, 11:58 PM   #31
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Tripage and I have come to the conclusion that I should replace the ECM. I will hopefully have it next week.
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Old 11-20-2012, 12:05 AM   #32
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awesome! let us know when it works.
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Old 11-20-2012, 12:08 AM   #33
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I like your optimism! "When" not "if"
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Old 11-20-2012, 12:44 AM   #34
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Haha, chin up!

The way I see it is you've got another 4 months before you can actually ride the bike when it warms up again.

on a side note, my 07 1krr was much quicker than a buddies rc51. Such a great mount.
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Old 11-20-2012, 01:04 AM   #35
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I've had a mint/low mileage 06 1000rr a year or so ago and yeah they are MUCH faster than the rc51s. I bought my rc just because I wanted one strictly for the street lol. The sound and look do it for me. My 1krr will definitely see the track and I am sure is much easier to ride faster on as well.
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Old 11-20-2012, 01:22 AM   #36
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As much as i LOVE the rc51, i would never get one as a street bike. its like hanging onto a barrel. from what limited experience ive had on them it felt like it would be at home on a track though.
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Old 11-20-2012, 02:03 AM   #37
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I couldn't bring myself to put mine on the track. 7k miles with not even a scratch on it. I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I went down with it. On the street I am good on it because I am taller/bigger. Could be a little more comfy though.
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Old 11-29-2012, 03:27 PM   #38
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Well here's my update.

I put a known working ECM from the correct year and still no prime. Also tried a different upper headlight harness with a known good bas and still nothing. I am stumped!
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Old 11-30-2012, 08:47 AM   #39
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Is the bas pointed correctly? Key cycled after the wiring has been installed?
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Yes the bas was pointed correctly and I jumped it as well. The gauges do cycle normally when the key is turned.
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Old 11-30-2012, 01:44 PM   #41
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If you manually trigger the fuel pump relay can you get it to start?
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:34 PM   #42
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I haven't tried but I doubt it considering I don't have spark either?
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:48 PM   #43
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Once you get 12v to the f-pump, also check cam and crank signals to the ecm, i believe it needs both for spark and pump prime. A volt meter, connected in parrallel to the two wires at each sensor, on a low AC volts scale, while cranking should read over .7v AC Let us know what you found.
try this.......
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:43 PM   #44
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How would i connect them in parallel? I am new to this and am not understanding how I should have the volt meter connected for the test? I am starting to think it's a bad crank sensor, I just remembered that the bike sat outside for probably a year under a cover and the guy had I believe the crank sensor just hanging outside of the right crankcase cover (it's supposed to be mounted inside it, and now is)
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Old 12-01-2012, 02:02 PM   #45
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I haven't done this, but check the manual for crank sensor troubleshooting. Should say how to check to make sure it's working.
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Old 12-07-2012, 05:02 PM   #46
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Replaced the pulse generator sensor with a brand new Oem one and still nothing. Sadly I think I have two options. Take it in, or part it out.
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Old 12-07-2012, 05:37 PM   #47
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I didn't look back, but has there been any issue with the kill switch? No spark and no fuel pump is the only thing aside from kick stand that I can think would be a KISS component. (Keep It Simple, Stupid)

EDIT: I see you played with the killswitch... but kickstand? May be easily overlooked and I've seen the push-pin get stuck and cause unbelievable headaches.
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Old 12-07-2012, 06:00 PM   #48
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I did unplug that and I jumped the two wires to eliminate any problem with that. No mil light. It's in neutral.
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:48 PM   #49
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Well I am pleased to tell you that I woke up early this morning and decided to swap out wiring harnesses. When I unplugged the cam sensor I found that the wiring was messed up. I continued to swap harnesses. Turned the key and the pump primed. Hit the ignition and it fired right up. Thanks for all your help guys!!!
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Old 12-10-2012, 12:54 PM   #50
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Glad you got it.
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You and me both! Thank you again for your help.
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Problem solved shortly after I propose a possible solution.

Of course by suggesting kickstand and killswitch, I meant cam position sensor.

Glad you caught on. It's one of those "Don't give the answer, let the grasshopper search for it."

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Happy you found it! Unfortunate you had to pull the harness, but better knowing you've found the problem! I just noticed you have an RC51. You're an alright guy in my book! (I've got an 06)
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