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Old 01-05-2013, 01:10 AM   #1
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Tamer Throttle Tube



" The Throttle Tamer incorporates a non-linear ratio between hand throttle rotation and carburetor or throttle body opening. The “pulley”, or as we call it, “cam” pulls the throttle cable as the rider rotates the grip/tube. By altering the conventional, circular shaped cam, a vast improvement in control is achieved.

The Throttle Tamer has a cam with a reduced radius initially, which requires a slightly farther rotation to achieve the same carburetor or throttle body opening position as a stock throttle. This virtually eliminates the jerky “throttle snatch” especially evident in modern fuel injected street bikes. The radius increases or “ramps up” after ½ throttle to keep overall rotation requires to reach full throttle at or near stock rotation.

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Source: http://www.g2ergo.com/g2-tamer-throttle-tubes-1.html


What do you guys think of this contraption? Do you think it's lazy to install such a product since it is a bit of a shortcut to good throttle control? I personally think if you take pride in becoming a good rider then there is no need for it unless you have a problem with your bike and this would somehow alleviate the issue.

Thoughts?

PS. Anyone know if it used in any competitions? MotoGP,WSBK,BSB, AMA?
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Old 01-05-2013, 02:12 AM   #2
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good question!
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Old 01-05-2013, 03:17 AM   #3
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I have always wanted a non-linear throttle.. I don't know anything about these bit non-linear is a nobrainer. Power lag is nuts between 50-100% throttle. Then again I've never been to a track. The non-linear 'feel' may come in use at a track.


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I wrote a rather long review of it in the reviews section....

http://www.600rr.net/vb/showthread.php?p=3658145
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if you ride above 8k it (throttle response) will be a lot smoother.

sometimes not possible in traffic or stop/go situations.
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Old 01-08-2013, 09:41 PM   #6
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Why learn the right way, when you can buy this and keep doing it wrong...


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Old 01-09-2013, 02:13 AM   #7
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I wouldn't go that far. I like this idea because it allows for the benefits of a quick turn throttle but without the immediate lurch when first rolling on.


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From the description it sounds like the opposite of a quick turn throttle. It says it take more turn for the first 50% and is more like stock for the second half. It's just meant to eliminate how touchy and jerky the throttle can be at low RPM's. if you just take the time to learn good throttle control, the problem will go away. What happens when a new rider gets used to this and then tries to ride a bike without it? Just learn the right way and don't waste time with shortcuts.


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My bike rolls with no throttle at about 12kph (8mph) and I can keep it rolling forward while filtering at just over 5kph (3mph) with half-clutch (sorry, don't know if there's a term in English, this is a translation of what I learned in Japanese). I don't feel any lurch when I start moving unless I screw up so I don't see the need for this in terms of control once you're able to do it, but it might be a nice option to reduce fatigue a little on the clutch when you're in stop-and-go traffic in the city? Seems like it might have the same effect as a reduced power setting when you first start rolling. If I commuted, I might look into this, but I just need to deal with city traffic on the way out to the twisties usually.
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I enjoy the instant throttle response with the stock tube. Overcoming the difficulty to roll back on the throttle smoothly is a great skill to have and very necessary if you want to become a better rider. I think we're heading into the direction where more options are available for sport bikes to make them more user friendly to avoid having to overcome problems associated with learning how to ride correctly. I don't want to have to rely on my bike to keep me from making mistakes, I want to rely on myself. The technology will always continue to get better and the motorcycles will improve, but it's never a bad thing to learn skills on your own first...
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I enjoy the instant throttle response with the stock tube. Overcoming the difficulty to roll back on the throttle smoothly is a great skill to have and very necessary if you want to become a better rider. I think we're heading into the direction where more options are available for sport bikes to make them more user friendly to avoid having to overcome problems associated with learning how to ride correctly. I don't want to have to rely on my bike to keep me from making mistakes, I want to rely on myself. The technology will always continue to get better and the motorcycles will improve, but it's never a bad thing to learn skills on your own first...
Exactly why I don't like traction control and anti lock brakes. Soon all new motorcycles sold in the US will be required to have anti lock brakes.
It just raises the base price for something I didn't want.

Nanny state country it is
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From the description it sounds like the opposite of a quick turn throttle. It says it take more turn for the first 50% and is more like stock for the second half. It's just meant to eliminate how touchy and jerky the throttle can be at low RPM's. if you just take the time to learn good throttle control, the problem will go away. What happens when a new rider gets used to this and then tries to ride a bike without it? Just learn the right way and don't waste time with shortcuts.
That's a good point but in a throttle situation I don't think it will inspire bad habits. I'd just like a 1/5 turn feel for the last half of the turn and stock 1/4 for the first half. Doesn't really change anything for rolling on, it just makes you not have to crank your arm as far to full throttle it.

Bikes have different power bands and throttles anyway so if you switch bikes you'll have to get used to something new anyway.



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i enjoy the instant throttle response with the stock tube. Overcoming the difficulty to roll back on the throttle smoothly is a great skill to have and very necessary if you want to become a better rider. I think we're heading into the direction where more options are available for sport bikes to make them more user friendly to avoid having to overcome problems associated with learning how to ride correctly. I don't want to have to rely on my bike to keep me from making mistakes, i want to rely on myself. The technology will always continue to get better and the motorcycles will improve, but it's never a bad thing to learn skills on your own first...
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exactly why i don't like traction control and anti lock brakes. Soon all new motorcycles sold in the us will be required to have anti lock brakes.
It just raises the base price for something i didn't want.

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