Hi I was just wondering if I am the only one that doesn't use the gear to slow down in these really close call situations, what's ur opinions and techniques people. Thanks
During MSF our instructor made it clear that if you are slowing you should be downshifting. Doesnt matter if you're letting out of the clutch and using it to help you slow. His thought was if you're stopping quickly, those behind you are doing the same. If one of them cant brake in time at least you're in the proper gear to drop the clutch and try and get the hell out of the way. At least you wouldn't become a car sammich!
Thankfully I havent had to test it yet, but I'm going through my gears down as I slow but with the clutch in.
If you are talking about me as being the person that "doesn't know what I'm talking about and that might get somebody killed," I'll give you my credentials:Holy crap...
Peeps, don't offer advice if you know not what you are talking about... Get somebody killed. These posts should be deleted... Help mods!
your front brake is only about 70% of your braking power... Hmmmm, so where's the rest of it?
In an emergency situation, you need to be using both brakes. You need to practice quick stops so that you are well prepared or conditioned to do it correctly when that unexpected emergency arises. It's easy to lock up the brakes, which you never want to do on a motorcycle. When you lock the brakes up, you lose traction for whichever tire is locked up.
If you do lock up the front brake, ease of the front brake till it starts rolling again then reapply as necessary.
If you lock up the rear tire, then DO NOT RELEASE THE REAR BRAKE. When you lock up the rear, your bike will almost always start "fish tailing". if your wheels aren't lined up, then when you release the rear the bike will automatically try to correct itself and the rear will kick back in line with the front wheel. This will throw you off the bike. Also known as a high side.
It's very important to practice in a controlled environment so that when the time comes, you give yourself a greater chance of successfully avoiding an accident.
And, yes, you should also be downshifting in the process. As someone said earlier, if you did manage to stop in time, nothing's says the guy behind you will. And you can't skip out of there quickly if you are in 4th gear. You want to be in first when you come to a stop. This is for routine stops as well.
Not saying any of what you said is wrong, but misti hurst is definitely not wrong IF you were implying it. The rear brake is great, I love it and think it should be used in emergency stops, but I think people need to master the front first, since as you said it is 70%, then try and master the other 30%. I am a beginner trying to master both simultaneously is not a good idea. There is also the issue of how easier it becomes to lock the rear because of the weight transfer to the front end so a smoother and more controlled applicatioon of rear brake is required compared to other scenarios. So my take on it; master front, master rear, combine.Holy crap...
Peeps, don't offer advice if you know not what you are talking about... Get somebody killed. These posts should be deleted... Help mods!
your front brake is only about 70% of your braking power... Hmmmm, so where's the rest of it?
In an emergency situation, you need to be using both brakes. You need to practice quick stops so that you are well prepared or conditioned to do it correctly when that unexpected emergency arises. It's easy to lock up the brakes, which you never want to do on a motorcycle. When you lock the brakes up, you lose traction for whichever tire is locked up.
If you do lock up the front brake, ease of the front brake till it starts rolling again then reapply as necessary.
If you lock up the rear tire, then DO NOT RELEASE THE REAR BRAKE. When you lock up the rear, your bike will almost always start "fish tailing". if your wheels aren't lined up, then when you release the rear the bike will automatically try to correct itself and the rear will kick back in line with the front wheel. This will throw you off the bike. Also known as a high side.
It's very important to practice in a controlled environment so that when the time comes, you give yourself a greater chance of successfully avoiding an accident.
And, yes, you should also be downshifting in the process. As someone said earlier, if you did manage to stop in time, nothing's says the guy behind you will. And you can't skip out of there quickly if you are in 4th gear. You want to be in first when you come to a stop. This is for routine stops as well.
Yup, it makes sense, you got a problem with that? If you want to explain why my approach is flawed and yours isn't, then do so. Otherwise, just stop acting like an ass to beginner and expert riders.Sure, makes total sense to learn the wrong way on purpose first, then try and correct that and learn the wrong way second... Logical.