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Old 10-13-2013, 06:56 AM   #1
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i read these tires are the shiznit when it comes to treaded race tires & the UK made ones are the best of the lot, i have a friend ship me a few sets of these plus other UK made Dunlop tires to try & test this next week.





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Compound codes, found marked on the sidewall, are as follows.

190/55:

8863 Qualifier
8827 Soft
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8757 Medium
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8838 Hard (endurance)

120/70:

8743 Soft
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thanks, i have been looking for that, i have the 8838 front & 8854 rear, our track gets hot & is abrasive, gonna find out real soon how they perform.
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TIRE REVIEW

when i started practicing for the race last wed i was only doing consistent 2:10-2:11 on 50% Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa SC2 tires (180/55 rear), come thu it went down 2:09's consistently but the thing is once i started the roll on the throttle earlier & harder the rear would start to slide but it's predictable, cornering precision was very good though after i lowered the front end back to oem height, turn in also became quicker as a result. the right side was was worn down very much after thu afternoon, started the psi at 32/26 on the warmers & 34/28 hot which gave a lot of grip, the front handled heavy trailbraking very well but you can feel the bike standing up if you exert too much, acceleration grip was very good with the slide quite predictable when you're really on it, midcorner grip is excellent even on the edge.

after thu practice the rear tire was worn on the right so i changed out the Pirelli for the Dunlop D212GP Pro UK NTEC (120/70 med front & 190/55 med/hard rear), mounted them that afternoon but took the next day (fri) for a break as i had to rest my aching muscles & help the other racers on setting up their bikes for the race. sat was the start for FP1-2-3 & QTT, i didn't know what to expect from these tires apart from they're very hard carcass so immediately thought they were similar to the Michelin Power One's in feel & carcass stiffness. my first session (FP1) with them proved what i was expecting all along, turn in proved to be heavier, the bike understeers on entry & corner exit plus the bike was wobbling mad on the final corner where i had to come in at 180kmh which scared the sheet out of me. i had to give it maintenance throttle to stabilize the rear so it doesn't buck me off the seat, the plus side is it had plenty of grip which gave me confidence on trailbraking & acceleration.

before the 2nd session i checked my rear shock settings i was surprised that my low speed compression was set to 0 (full hard), somebody messed with my suspension when i left it at the track the day before so i had a full look over on my suspension settings using my last saved data on my cellphone, reset it to SC2 specs & wrote the settings on the swingarm, lower fork leg & upper triple so i don't forget. at the lat corner the handling was much improved, the wobbling was still there but not as much anymore, it was quite manageable & looking at the wear i had to adjust the LC HC & rebound for the rear shock so i added 2 clicks of LC, 1/6 turn HC & 2 clicks rebound (stiffer), the front end was left as it is. for the pressures i started with 29 front & 18 rear cold psi, after 45min on the warmers i set the psi to 33 front & 21 rear, after FP1 pressure was up to 35 front & 23 rear hot off the track. the front was wearing nicely but the rear was balling up chunks of rubber so i added 1psi more (24 hot) to make it last longer as i only had this set to last for FP3, QTT & the race itself.

FP3, after the adjustments i noticed an immediate improvement in handling & stability, the bike didn't understeer on entry & exit this time plus the wobble was minimized further, getting on the gas earlier harder didn't make the rear tire slide & i was easily doing 2:09's consistently so i pitted in & stuck with the last settings in preparation for QTT. something happened before QTT, it drizzled which made the track very damp so i had to install my rain tires as i was expecting a wet QTT session but the track started to dry again so i had install my dry tries again, dammit i was getting tire swapping out wheels in 5min. the track had cooled down which affected the grip of the tires & the track had no electricity which meant the tire warmers didn't work. the best i could muster under the conditions was a 2:09, just under a sec off the 2 faster guys in front of me.

i know i was in trouble for the race tomorrow if i couldn't find a break though in my riding but i also had to conserve my tires as i was only using race takeoffs from the start, i skipped WUP in the morning & took the bike out of the track & started practicing my starts until a security guard stopped me after the 3rd run. for the race i set the tires to 32 front & 20 rear on the warmers because now i will need every bit of grip these tires can give.

my practice starts paid off as i got to T1 before the 2 guys in front of me & i had the inside line, braked later than usual & just leaned the bike over, i was scared because i had never entered that corner from that point before but the tires held very well. entered T2 in front of the pack & started ride harder with my knee, toe sliders & pegs scraping on both sides, i have never experienced this before since riding on Michelin Power Ones but only this time it's much deeper. accelerating out of the corners i have felt the tire slide for the first time since using them the other day but it was very predictable & the rear still felt it had more to give so i rode like that on every corner for the next 3 laps, the bike held the line very well on the fast sweepers, i was braking later & doing late corner apexes & the front tire didn't even budge, i was amazed that i can even do that. after the race i looked at the tires & they don't look worn at all, the rear still had plenty of tread left, same with the front, i was expecting the rear to be shredded but it was clean after 7 laps on a very hot & abrasive track.

here are the lap times i did during the race, they only started timing after the 1st lap.

00 - me (Honda CBR 600RR3) Dunlop D212GP Pro UK NTEC 120/190

lap 2 - 2:06.174 - best lap
lap 3 - 2:06.398
lap 4 - 2:06.790
lap 5 - 2:07.653
lap 6 - 2:09.611
lap 7 - 2:08.537

23 - 2nd place guy (Honda CBR 600RR7) Bridgestone R10 120/190

lap 2 - 2:08.891
lap 3 - 2:09.337
lap 4 - 2:08.186
lap 5 - 2:07.877
lap 6 - 2:08.790
lap 7 - 2:06.524 - best lap

28 - 3rd place guy (Yamaha R6 2009) Bridgestone R10 120/190

lap 2 - 2:09.783
lap 3 - 2:09.869
lap 4 - 2:09.289
lap 5 - 2:09.304
lap 6 - 2:08.750 - best lap
lap 7 - 2:09.643

05 - 4th place guy (Yamaha R6 2007) Bridgestone R10 120/190

lap 2 - 2:09.111
lap 3 - 2:11.226
lap 4 - 2:07.942
lap 5 - 2:07.899
lap 6 - 2:06.710 - best lap
lap 7 - 2:39.583 - ran off track, got stuck in the gravel trap

here is how the tire looked like after the race, looking great even after 3 FP's, QTT & a 7 lap race.







these are farking awesome tires, i will never hesitate to use these tires even if they're race takeoffs, highly recommended.
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You wrote a great review, mate! Over here in Europe many riders are ecstatic about these tires, they need totally different settings than the Pirellis, on top of that you need to look at geometry changes as well. Once the suspension is sorted out, the tires will give you tons of grip.

Concerning take offs, I have a slightly different experience: the grip is awesome in the beginning, but is starting to fade after 2 days of track riding (if at pro level they will last you only a couple of days really). The take off will slide around, but is not unpredictable like the Bidgestones, and you'll be losing up to 2 secs a lap with them, once they're not fresh anymore. But will last very long, I have friends who rode them until the grooves dissappeared entirelly and they managed a decent 5th place at race pace.
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You wrote a great review, mate! Over here in Europe many riders are ecstatic about these tires, they need totally different settings than the Pirellis, on top of that you need to look at geometry changes as well. Once the suspension is sorted out, the tires will give you tons of grip.

Concerning take offs, I have a slightly different experience: the grip is awesome in the beginning, but is starting to fade after 2 days of track riding (if at pro level they will last you only a couple of days really). The take off will slide around, but is not unpredictable like the Bidgestones, and you'll be losing up to 2 secs a lap with them, once they're not fresh anymore. But will last very long, I have friends who rode them until the grooves dissappeared entirelly and they managed a decent 5th place at race pace.
the only changes i ever made were at the rear shock, LC, HC & rebound so solve the weaving problem on corner entry while off the gas at high speed, geometry i changed prior to installing the Dunlops, it was originally setup for the Pirelli as it made the bike turn in quicker & hold a tighter line, just added a quarter turn on the fork compression damping because i was braking harder & nearly bottoming out the forks.
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may have to give these a shot. I run the NTEC UK slicks now and love em but will try the DOT's soon.
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I'd love to give these a try, but my pace doesn't warrant them and they cost so much new I just can't do it.
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I'd love to give these a try, but my pace doesn't warrant them and they cost so much new I just can't do it.
i heard from a buddy in the UK they can be had for like 60 to 80 pounds for race takeoffs, they're like 80% left, not a bad deal, i got mine the same way, best thing that ever happened to me.
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i heard from a buddy in the UK they can be had for like 60 to 80 pounds for race takeoffs, they're like 80% left, not a bad deal, i got mine the same way, best thing that ever happened to me.
The cheapest I've seen Dunlop D212 take-offs being sold for track side is 100. That was for a complete front and rear set with plenty of life left in them so ideal for trackday use.
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I had ran R10s for a bit. They worked okay but my buddy finally convinced me to give some of his NTEC takeoffs a try (KR106/108s). I love em! The rear lasts me far longer than R10s. I could only get 3 days out of an R10 rear and that was with flipping it or running an opposite direction on one of the days. I can easily get 5-6 days from the rear and I'm running a faster pace than before. I haven't ran the DOTs yet. I am going to start doing some local club racing. I haven't decided what tires I'll go with.
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I had ran R10s for a bit. They worked okay but my buddy finally convinced me to give some of his NTEC takeoffs a try (KR106/108s). I love em! The rear lasts me far longer than R10s. I could only get 3 days out of an R10 rear and that was with flipping it or running an opposite direction on one of the days. I can easily get 5-6 days from the rear and I'm running a faster pace than before. I haven't ran the DOTs yet. I am going to start doing some local club racing. I haven't decided what tires I'll go with.
we have another convert! praise the tire lords! hallelujah!

if i hadn't had the balls to try the D212GP i would have gotten a different result, my race pace would be certainly slower on the R10's because they just felt softer for me, the SC's were a little better but i like the feel of the harder carcass tires like the Power One which gave me a lot of confidence.

the Dunlop costs a bit more but they last longer & have better grip so if it were me i'd run these tires any time without hesitation.

what size slicks did you run? 185 or 195?
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195 rear. I don't even see the 185 listed for sale here in the states.
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I prefer to run the 180/55 DOTs, since they're lighter than the 190s. The compounds are the same anyhow.

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There are no 185 slicks, only 180/55 gp racer slicks, which are trackday tires, not the real thing. We run these tires in the rookies' championship and are not as grippy as the others.

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brought in a few sets of these tyres, let the fun begin.
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The D212s are amazing! My front has 6 days on it running Advanced pace and the thing looks brand new.

The amount of trail braking that can be done is unfathomable(sp)! The tire doesn't want to let go of the pavement lol

Running 31psi Front of the warmers. I will be going with another set when needed.
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The D212s are amazing! My front has 6 days on it running Advanced pace and the thing looks brand new.

The amount of trail braking that can be done is unfathomable(sp)! The tire doesn't want to let go of the pavement lol

Running 31psi Front of the warmers. I will be going with another set when needed.
i usually get as much trackdays out of the take offs i get, i usually set it 30psi cold on the front & 18psi cold on the rear, about 35psi hot on the front & 23psi hot on the rear, still has plenty of grip even at those elevated pressures & they last longer. if i was going racing i'd set the rear to 16psi colt to get to 22psi hot.
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