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Old 05-12-2008, 05:42 PM   #1
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Fram oil filter number??

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I looked in the Fram book at my local store and the 03 600 RR wasn't listed. I was wondering if anyone knew the number for the Fram oil filter for the 03? Thanks, Frank R.
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Old 05-12-2008, 05:56 PM   #2
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I'll be polite. Don't use a Fram filter. Put the book down and grab a Pureolator PureONE Filter, PL14612 or PL14610 (which is a touch longer but will clear stock exhaust manifolds).

If you get the PL14610, grab the Gold colored one with the grippy stuff on the can. They even have a rebate program, you get $2 back on your purchase of 1 PureONE oil filter.

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Old 05-12-2008, 06:36 PM   #3
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Hey guys,
I looked in the Fram book at my local store and the 03 600 RR wasn't listed. I was wondering if anyone knew the number for the Fram oil filter for the 03? Thanks, Frank R.
Fram PH6607 I use the same filter works great. I am in need of an oil change as well.

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Old 05-12-2008, 11:09 PM   #4
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K&N 204. K&N filters have the 17mm nut attached for easy removal.
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Old 05-13-2008, 05:56 PM   #5
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Hey guys,
Thanks for the help. I always ran K&N in my 450 MXer. I went ahead and picked up the pureolater pl 14612. I will use a K&N for my next change. Thanks guys! Frank R.
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Old 05-13-2008, 08:48 PM   #6
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either that pure
or the mobil m108
hell even the plain oem filter is better than a fram

do a search on the internet for motorcycle oil filter reviews

Fram is noted for the famous quote
"this is an example of how not to build a filter"
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Old 05-14-2008, 03:15 PM   #7
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I used the Mobil 1-m108 filter for my first oil change. Didn't hear any bad things about it and my bike didn't explode, so I'm assuming it is working well.
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Old 05-14-2008, 04:26 PM   #8
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Fram filters are garbage. I usually run a Wix oil filter in everything I own, but I do have a K&N on my bike. The attached nut is very handy for removing the oil filter. No more screw driver and hammer removals.
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Old 05-14-2008, 04:34 PM   #9
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frams are junk period.

mobil is made by champ so any of the champ sister companies are good also (bosch, champ, mopar, supertech)

purulator are good also

wix is good

any of these three anything else is pretty much junk

now take in mind on what other filters these companies make
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Old 05-14-2008, 08:00 PM   #10
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What oil filter feature do you look for when buying an oil filter? Is it micron level, length of service, can thickness, type of material of the anti-drain back valve, PSID setting of the internal by-pass valve, nut on the end for removal, anti bursting pressure, color of can or what?
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Old 05-14-2008, 08:17 PM   #11
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Fram PH6607 I use the same filter works great. I am in need of an oil change as well.

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agreed! i use the same filter number 6607. its also the same filter as my 2002 civic EX.

20k miles and 0 problems
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Old 05-14-2008, 08:41 PM   #12
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What oil filter feature do you look for when buying an oil filter? Is it micron level, length of service, can thickness, type of material of the anti-drain back valve, PSID setting of the internal by-pass valve, nut on the end for removal, anti bursting pressure, color of can or what?
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i look for the one that has been recommended by people that have cut them open and looked at what is inside.
http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/FilterStudy.html

some quotes from above

amsoil-a flawed superior filter
Fram-cardboard
K&N-average filter with a 6$ nut on the end
mobil m108-nice filter media but not much of it, smaller unit (so it goes well behind headers)
Pure One PL14610- an example of fiters should be made

http://www.tobycreek.org/oil_filters/
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If anything, the Fram will show you how NOT to build a high performance oil filter

The Amsoil filter internally looks very similar to the Wix filter, but they are not the same. Semi-O ring gasket, well cut threads with no apparent burrs.

honda oem
This is how a high-performance oil filter should be built.

K&N
This could be my new favorite filter

mobil 1
This is a well-constructed filter, which Mobil 1 touts as having 98% single-pass particle filtration at 10 to 20 microns, and multiple-pass efficiency of 95% (vs. 80% for the average filter).
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Old 05-14-2008, 09:59 PM   #13
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Thanks for the links RShackleford. Looks like I'll be trying out the Pure One filter next. Half the price of Mobil 1 too. Sweet.
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Old 05-14-2008, 10:01 PM   #14
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Thanks for the links RShackleford. Looks like I'll be trying out the Pure One filter next. Half the price of Mobil 1 too. Sweet.
more than half! Check it out!

http://www.pureoil.com/documents/reb...ebate_form.pdf
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Old 05-15-2008, 05:42 PM   #15
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i look for the one that has been recommended by people that have cut them open and looked at what is inside.
http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/FilterStudy.html

some quotes from above

amsoil-a flawed superior filter
Fram-cardboard
K&N-average filter with a 6$ nut on the end
mobil m108-nice filter media but not much of it, smaller unit (so it goes well behind headers)
Pure One PL14610- an example of fiters should be made

http://www.tobycreek.org/oil_filters/
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If anything, the Fram will show you how NOT to build a high performance oil filter

The Amsoil filter internally looks very similar to the Wix filter, but they are not the same. Semi-O ring gasket, well cut threads with no apparent burrs.

honda oem
This is how a high-performance oil filter should be built.

K&N
This could be my new favorite filter

mobil 1
This is a well-constructed filter, which Mobil 1 touts as having 98% single-pass particle filtration at 10 to 20 microns, and multiple-pass efficiency of 95% (vs. 80% for the average filter).
The test on the Amsoil one is of the older version. There is no filters on the market that look like an Amsoil nano fiber filter. I cut many filters apart over the last 27 years and other than construction you can not tell how good a filter will perform while in service with the naked eye.
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Old 05-15-2008, 06:49 PM   #16
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The test on the Amsoil one is of the older version. There is no filters on the market that look like an Amsoil nano fiber filter. I cut many filters apart over the last 27 years and other than construction you can not tell how good a filter will perform while in service with the naked eye.
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so which one do you recommend ( i wonder)
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Old 05-20-2008, 01:59 PM   #17
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I ordered some Pure One filters (PL14612) on Amazon. $9.88 for a two pack. Free shipping if you spend $25+.
$2.94 per filter after rebate.
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I use nothing but OEM filters. Its just not worth trying to save a few bucks on one of the most important parts of your bike.

All filters have an excess pressure relief valve. as you engine revs and the pressure within the filter increases (due to a largeer volume of oil flowing through it), the relief valve inside the filter opens up allowing UNFILTERED oil to return to the engine. So, althogh the filter may "seem" to be working, it is not filtering any oil when the relief valve opens. you might aswell be throwing the money you spend on substandard filters in the trash can.
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^ all true if the relief valve psi's are different...
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Are Honda Civic Filters the same as Honda OEM '07 RR filters ?
Just wondering , cuz the Civic filters are not too overpriced.
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I use nothing but OEM filters. Its just not worth trying to save a few bucks on one of the most important parts of your bike.

All filters have an excess pressure relief valve. as you engine revs and the pressure within the filter increases (due to a largeer volume of oil flowing through it), the relief valve inside the filter opens up allowing UNFILTERED oil to return to the engine. So, althogh the filter may "seem" to be working, it is not filtering any oil when the relief valve opens. you might aswell be throwing the money you spend on substandard filters in the trash can.
you do realize that the relief valve only comes on if the filter gets clogged.
the substandard filter is the honda that opens at a lower oil psi than the mobil.

even unfiltered oil is better than no oil

the mobil m108 relief valve opens when the engine oil pressure gets down to 17psi

the honda oil filter wont open until the oil pressure gets down to 8psi

do some research
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Are Honda Civic Filters the same as Honda OEM '07 RR filters ?
Just wondering , cuz the Civic filters are not too overpriced.
what does this have to do with anything other than trying to get a post count up
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This copied from the 1000rr site.

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Originally Posted by goracer
Is this a car filter or motorcycle as I can not find any Purolator motorcycle filter for any Honda newer then the 959?



(Quote) This is what I got from emailing the Purolator website contact: (Quote)

Unfortunately we do not manufacture PureOne oil filters for motorcycles. We do have a separate line of motorcycle filters that are equivalent to the OE filter. Your bike will take the ML16817. The PureOne has never been tested on bikes because of the restriction of oil flow. Therefore no warranty will be provided on it.



Kempf Stark
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Filtration
Robert Bosch LLC
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800.526.4250

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well duh of course they are going to tell you that it wont work
that is called product liability
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