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Old 05-31-2008, 06:14 PM   #1
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Dunlop 211 GP NTEC?

I'm buying new wheels, therefore I need another set of tires. I'm running on Qualifiers right now, which I also had on my 1kRR. I like them, I think... I don't really know the difference yet. I will be doing several track days, I already have 2 booked next month. So anyway, I have an opportunity to buy a set of take-offs of the 211 NTECs that were only run for a few laps for under $200. Is anyone running these tires? Tell me the good and bad about them!

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supposed to be good tires, i just bought a gsxr 750 that has a new set on it i was told to run 23 lbs rear hot and 33 frt hot, i haven't tried them yet myself
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almost $200 for take-offs? damn thats steep. I sell take offs for $75/set all day long.

The tires are good, I'm not a huge advocate of Dunlops. There are way better tires out there for way less money. By no means are they a bad tire. What size are they probably a 190/55 or a 190/60 right? If your running these on your 600rr, I'd stick with a 180 rear.

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190/55. I want to try the 190 and see if I like that or if I should stick with the 180.
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you can run a 190 with no stress and depending on what track your going to. like big willow the 190 gives you more drive just like cali speedway. then tracks like willow streets the 180 gives you quicker direction change. the 211 and 209 are both good tyres but if your buying take offs look into what compound your getting(i.e. soft,med,hard) or a combo of the compounds dunnies have a # on the side of te tyre that can tell you that info.

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211's can't be beat. run them with no worries. 33 front 23 rear OFF THE WARMERS or about 28-30 front 19-21 rear COLD. i run these all day long and they are the absolute best tire i've tried, and i've tried a few. you'll see dude- and for the record, if those take-offs are barely scrubbed in then they're definitely worth the $200. they're $500 new. make sure you're getting the real 211's though, cuz there's all kind of spin-offs now like the GP and the GP-A which are american-made and not quite the same. make sure the sidewall says "D211GP" and "Made in Great Britain".
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and make sure youre running a pace fast enough to actually heat up the tires to their operating range otherwise it would be pointless. i don really know you so don consider this a prejudgement. but with tires that good and that expensive be sure you are USING them, if not street tires would suffice. i run right around 1:35 at streets of willow and a set of nice DCIIIs or equivalent would suffice. BUT if you feel like you would utilize the tire...they are the best tire ive ever ran!!!!! but i dont run them anymore because i feel like im wasting an excellent tire by not utilizing their potential and they mask a lot of rider errors ie. lack of smoothness and excessive lean angle. id rather learn how to ride the bike the right way


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and make sure youre running a pace fast enough to actually heat up the tires to their operating range otherwise it would be pointless.
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The 211's are about the best tire on the market at the moment... Most of the AMA teams currently run NTech's. The reason for the large price tag is because the initial cost to run them new is around $420 a set. I have a stack of them in the garage if anyone is interested. pm me for prices.

I described them to a friend of mine this way... "I can do bad bad things to these tires, such as going full-throttle long before I know I should, and they just take it... Launching me out of corners."
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190/55. I want to try the 190 and see if I like that or if I should stick with the 180.
Best tyres actually on the market! But 190/55 is made for the 600cc and have to be mounted on a 5.5" wheel. So, even if it is 190, you won't feel much difference from the 180 because they are the same width but the 211 is taller. If you wanna try the 1000cc version, you have to buy 200/55 tyre!
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I just installed some BT003 DOT's with a 180 rear on my bike after doing four
track days with some Supercorsa Dragon Pros with a 190. I was shocked on
how fast the bike turned in with the 180. It felt like I was about to toss the bike onto the track. To me it confirmed what I thought the whole time about
the 180 versus 190 debate. Our bikes are designed to run a 180 so I am gonna stick with a 180.
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I just installed some BT003 DOT's with a 180 rear on my bike after doing four
track days with some Supercorsa Dragon Pros with a 190. I was shocked on
how fast the bike turned in with the 180. It felt like I was about to toss the bike onto the track. To me it confirmed what I thought the whole time about
the 180 versus 190 debate. Our bikes are designed to run a 180 so I am gonna stick with a 180.
+1 i like the 180 much better, its all in your style of riding. Ive heard of people putting 190's on and have been slower and vice versa
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Its hard to beat the D211 N-tecs. I started last season with 5 sets of the D209 N-tec then finished off with 3 sets of D211. They were the best tires I've ever ran period! FYI I ran Michelin the previous season. However I think you could do better than $200 for a set of take offs. But if your happy with them thats all that really matters. The pressures previously mentioned are about where I ran them too. And these tires like the heat so keep them warm to get the best performance out of them.
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EDIT: This thread is definitely 6 months old....
for sure. LOL

I picked up the 211s after all, they are awesome!
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different tyres suit different riders. some love the feel of one tyre and can swear by it while another rider might hate them. i loved dunlops on my car and so i decided to go with the gp racer d211 over the supercorsa or racetecs. i cant believe how much grip and feedback this tyre give. even on road pressures its confidence inspiring to let me get my knee down within minutes of warm up. midway through the turn you can just slam the throttle wide open and the tyre doesnt fuss..it just grips and catapults you out of the turn. cant fault them. im runnin the endurance compound and cant wait to take them out on track.
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cooked D211s

after CSS Level 2 at Silverstone. This is the endurance compound!

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you have some suspension tuning issues judging from the way you're tire has worn, your tire seems to be tearing off around the small inner tread groove areas. definitely a damping problem & there's also a hint of cold tear there.
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211's can't be beat. run them with no worries. 33 front 23 rear OFF THE WARMERS or about 28-30 front 19-21 rear COLD. i run these all day long and they are the absolute best tire i've tried, and i've tried a few. you'll see dude- and for the record, if those take-offs are barely scrubbed in then they're definitely worth the $200. they're $500 new. make sure you're getting the real 211's though, cuz there's all kind of spin-offs now like the GP and the GP-A which are american-made and not quite the same. make sure the sidewall says "D211GP" and "Made in Great Britain".

I second Dr Go fast....and they're a harder compound than the 209's from what I understand and should last you longer even if not on warmers
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FSU Chick, the NTECS are the best, but may be a little more than you need if you are a novice trackday rider. You will need to be running tire warmers if you are not already, and your pace on the track will have to be pretty quick to keep the heat in them.
Running a novice pace on these tires can be very dangerous, as they will not grip if not up to temp.
You may want to stick with the Q2s. They are very reasonably priced, and can be ridden at an advaced pace on the track, and at a street pace. They are considered by most to be the best hypersport tire on the market.
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agree with the assessment with the guys here, a race tire can be dangerous if you're not fast enough to generate the heat needed to keep this tire sticky, you're better off with the Power Pures, Q2 or BT003 RS tires, they heat up quicker & provide loads of grip for a novice track rider.

when you're pushing seconds off advanced level rider pace then you can switch to the D211's.
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i guess no body else noticed this thread is 3 years old ;)
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Awwww...effin' thread ressurection...gets me every time. I really should start looking at the thread date.
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I WENT FROM RUNNING 1:05s AT TALLADEGA TO 1:02s AND 1:03s BY JUST MOUNTING AND RUNNING NTECS... BY FAR THE BEST TIRE OUT THERE..
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I WENT FROM RUNNING 1:05s AT TALLADEGA TO 1:02s AND 1:03s BY JUST MOUNTING AND RUNNING NTECS... BY FAR THE BEST TIRE OUT THERE..
not anymore from what i have read, the new Bridgestone R10's seem to give it a good run for its money, at par with the UK D211GP NTEC but cheaper.

competition is good for everyone, let the tire wars continue.
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not anymore from what i have read, the new Bridgestone R10's seem to give it a good run for its money, at par with the UK D211GP NTEC but cheaper.

competition is good for everyone, let the tire wars continue.
Price wise yes the R10 beats the deal as far as money is concerned, but recently I found a Combo D209GPA front and D211GPA rear med. compound for $100 less than what the R10's are going for at the moment so I jumped in on the deal. I was going to go with the R10's but local suppliers are short in supply because of the event that happened in Japan. Any who I run a lower/mid A group pace depending on track and after four track-days my rear on the left is on the wear bars. I'm going to test them out for another trackday to see if they start slipping or not, based on some racers I know they said they ran these tires till they looked like slicks. This is the 200/55 UK Spec and its a little overkill for the 5.5' rim or for 600's but I couldn't pass up on the deal that the set was going for so I took them anyways.
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When you guys say be sure your going fast enough for the 211 or else they could be dangerous, how fast are you talking about. If you are in the B group on track day, is that fast enough or one has be a top A group rider to benefit from 211s?
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The older tires were in fact directional, but only in regard to the rain grooves. If you don't ever plan on riding in the rain, it's really not a concern.

The older JLB design alowed flipping because the forces on the tire don't have an affect on the belt.....kinda' hard to put into words.

Because of unfortunate liability concerns, and profit motives to increase tire sales, it's hard to get someone in the tire industry to give their bleesing on the flipping issue. I was surprised, and iimpressed, with Barry Wressell's comments.

It is obvious that when a used tire is flipped, there is a wear pattern......especially from acceleration forces. After I flip a tire, I ride several easier-than-normal laps to allow the wear profile to essentially reverse in the opposite direction. If you hammer on a flipped tire too soon, you will abruptly tear-off the leading edge of the wear pattern too soon. When this happens, the wear profile can be screwed-up for the remining life of the tire.

Trust me - I know what I'm talking about here. If you don't allow the wear pattern to "slowly" change direction, there will be a period of time when you are only riding on the very leading edge of the wear pattern before it was flipped (think about it)......it takes a while to burn-off that leading edge so the entire contact patch meets the track.
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211's can't be beat. run them with no worries. 33 front 23 rear OFF THE WARMERS or about 28-30 front 19-21 rear COLD. i run these all day long and they are the absolute best tire i've tried, and i've tried a few. you'll see dude- and for the record, if those take-offs are barely scrubbed in then they're definitely worth the $200. they're $500 new. make sure you're getting the real 211's though, cuz there's all kind of spin-offs now like the GP and the GP-A which are american-made and not quite the same. make sure the sidewall says "D211GP" and "Made in Great Britain".

If UK 211s are so much better, then why all AMA riders use USA 211?
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