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General Discussion General Honda CBR600RR Motorcycle Talk - please place mods, tech tips and off topic threads in the correct forums.

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06-21-2009, 05:25 AM
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Moto GP Racer
Join Date: Oct 2006
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Originally Posted by redlinernyc
I think it IS the bike...come on, youre talking about a supersport race ready bike in the hands of somone who has never ridden before. The brakes (grab the front brake hard on a 250 and you'll be ok, do it on a 600 and youll be in trouble), the throttle response and the extra weight all take time to get used to
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there's a saying "its not the bike, its the rider". heard that one before?
these threads are so redundant. many of us started on 600s, and many on 250's, some even on 1k's. its all relative. sure its "safer" to start on a 250, but if the rider has no idea how to ride properly, it does NOT make a difference what bike he starts with. The maturity level is a big factor too like someone said. a 18 yr old on a 600 is an accident waiting to happen, but if you are someone who is older, it can be done.
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06-21-2009, 12:59 PM
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AMA Supersport Racer
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Bayside, NYC
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Originally Posted by TribalCBR06
there's a saying "its not the bike, its the rider". heard that one before?
these threads are so redundant. many of us started on 600s, and many on 250's, some even on 1k's. its all relative. sure its "safer" to start on a 250, but if the rider has no idea how to ride properly, it does NOT make a difference what bike he starts with. The maturity level is a big factor too like someone said. a 18 yr old on a 600 is an accident waiting to happen, but if you are someone who is older, it can be done.
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i guess we can agree to disagree since I still stand by my opinion that it IS the bike
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06-22-2009, 12:41 AM
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Knee Dragger
Join Date: Apr 2009
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To each is own. Everyone learns at different paces and uses different methods to learn. I learned algebra in 5th grade but didn't learn how to ride until 27. Yep 27. Everyone's different. Do what works best for you.
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06-22-2009, 08:13 AM
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Training Wheel Hero
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 81
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I took the safety course last summer and I picked up my first bike 3 weeks ago ... Why does everyone say a 600 is not good bike to start on and is blah this blah that.... I don't get it??
This bike is so easy to ride why the hell do people go all nuts making it seem like its impossible to start on a 600???
Thought i would share because I think its a perfect bike to start on.
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I just finished the MSF course about 3 1/2 weeks ago and got my 06 600RR that same week and immediately notice that the cbr is a great bike to learn on(with lower RPM's about 3-5k) but as you start shifting at the higher RPM's like 7-9k it becomes a different bike. I can see why some people try to discourage from starting on a 600, but if they take the time to learn the bike by increasing the speed and RPM's gradually then I don't see why a person could not start on a 600(RESPECT THE BIKE!!  ). However, the MSF course motorcycles are alot different then a 600(I used the honda nighthawk). The nighthawk weighs less(alot less) and is not as responsive as the 600.
So if you do start on a 600, then please be careful not to try to hit corners fast because the MSF course teaches the techniques, but it's totally different in practice(when a car is on the opposite side). If you don't believe check out the video:
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/T...-AT_690168.htm
scary sh!t  This was posted in another forum that I saw this morning.
Ride safe, and keep it on 2 wheels!
Last edited by purplehayz : 06-22-2009 at 08:15 AM.
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06-22-2009, 03:25 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Niagara Falls, Canada
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Originally Posted by redlinernyc
i guess we can agree to disagree since I still stand by my opinion that it IS the bike
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The only thing wrong with your opinion is that you didn't take your own advice. Just because you borrowed a friends 250 for a month, doesn't mean you started on a 250. Maybe if you rode a solid first season on that 250 you could call it starting. Its all about maturity and self control. Truth is that most newbies end up riding beyond their capabilities and thats when they go down..... be it a 250 or a 6...
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06-22-2009, 05:11 PM
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Training Wheel Hero
Join Date: Aug 2008
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Hey guys i started on a 600rr a year ago, haven't wrecked it yet. BUT if i go down for any reason within the next 2 years, it's obviously because i started on the 600 and not a 250 lol
Last edited by Andy6387 : 06-22-2009 at 05:13 PM.
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06-23-2009, 10:00 PM
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Pocketbike Racer
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Radford VA
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I need more popcorn :)
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06-23-2009, 11:48 PM
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Knee Dragger
Join Date: Apr 2009
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I started on a 250R and laid it down in the first couple months by locking the brakes up. I'm glad I laid the 250 down and not the 600. We learn by our mistakes, hopefully.
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06-24-2009, 12:26 AM
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Knee Dragger
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: So Cal
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its all with what you feel comfortable you can crash on a 250 you can crash on a 600 its all the same thing one just cost more money its up to the person anyone preach on whats a good decision but that would be their opinion if you got the money why not
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06-24-2009, 12:01 PM
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Training Wheel Hero
Join Date: Apr 2009
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my first bike was a 2002 gsxr 600 and I have to admit, even though I had some dirt bike experience.....it probably wasnt the smartest street bike to buy as my first. I had a couple of close calls with dumping it and such. My buddy started on an sv-650....and that would have been much smarter.
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06-24-2009, 04:13 PM
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Training Wheel Hero
Join Date: May 2009
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 to all the haters.
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06-24-2009, 05:15 PM
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AMA Supersport Racer
Join Date: May 2007
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Can't wait till someone pulls out infront of you, and you panic and don't know what to do.
Then you come on here and ask where you can get new plastics and stuff.
(then you can kiss 600rr.net's a$$)
Best of luck to the caters around you, seems like you might be running into one sooner then you thought, and best of luck to you.
Real world advice you should shrink your ego down a tad, will help you in the long run.
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06-24-2009, 05:18 PM
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Training Wheel Hero
Join Date: May 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ac921ol
Can't wait till someone pulls out infront of you, and you panic and don't know what to do.
Then you come on here and ask where you can get new plastics and stuff.
(now you can kiss my a$$)
Best of luck to the caters around you, seems like you might be running into one sooner then you thought, and best of luck to you.
Real world advice you should shrink your ego down a tad, will help you in the long run.
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who says I drive like a retard all you ppl think as soon as a new rider gets a bike hes going super fast and doesnt know what hes doing hes a total retard total this and total that **** off seriously so many haters.
and maybe i have been cut off already and knew what to do?? have u ever thought of that u tool... not everyone is the same get that in your head.
karma comes around if u talk **** like that telling me imma get hit n **** you watch yourself MR. PROFESSIONAL rider knows exactly what to do in every ******* situation.
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06-24-2009, 05:48 PM
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Knee Dragger
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Kent, England
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Well you've got the bike, you might as well ride it and just be carefull.
And watch out for the cagers.
It all depends on the riders experience at the end of the day.
Personnaly i didn't see a problem with new riders on big bikes, but recently I dont think the same way and not every young/new rider has had the same riding experience as me.
I'm a young rider 20, but I've been riding 5 years, I got my licence as soon as I could and each year riding more powerful and capable bikes than before, I have worked at a stealership though, so riding different bikes everyday helped. I did do the whole stage by stage with my bikes thing though. 50cc, cheap 250cc, 400 road bike, 900 blade, 600rr trackbike.
Last edited by gothy : 06-24-2009 at 05:50 PM.
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06-24-2009, 06:00 PM
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#76
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Training Wheel Hero
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 59
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Enjoy the bike, just respect it and keep a level head!
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06-25-2009, 10:15 PM
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Knee Dragger
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: So Cal
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im with 2urk it all depends on the rider
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