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Old 09-08-2011, 09:29 AM   #1
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Pirelli Diablo Rosso 2

Hi Guys,

I'm wondering if anyone's had a chance to try out the Diablo Rosso II's yet? It's my understanding that they came out earlier this year - correct me if I'm wrong - as a replacement to the Rosso's, and I haven't heard all that much about them. The review linked below doesn't give too much detail, only says that they're better than the Rosso's.

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/402/10...re-Review.aspx

Anyhow, I'm thinking about getting a set of these, and was wondering if anyone had tried them out / their thoughts and opinions on them.

For what it's worth, I don't do track days and am not overly aggressive, but I like to be able to throw the bike through some twisties once in a while.

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My local shop owner was invited by Pirelli to test them at Miller this year after a SBK race he loved them it was pouring rain during the event .

He was given a Duc to ride and i know the guy can ride and he swore the tires felt brilliant and evrey distributor that rode a bike to test the tires that day raved about them .

I for one am due for tires and will get a set installed today and my Bud Mo ( site member ) will be placing an order for a set as well he got a track day coming up soon and i am sure he will really test them out and post a full review that will be way better
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getting a set next week prior to track day. hate replacing tires this time of year in new england, but need to pass tech. local shop service mgr was part of that pirelli event at Salt Lake City and raves about the tires.
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Good to know, let me know how you make out - my season's pretty much ended so I'm in no rush to change anything anytime soon - will get something in the offseason.
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Im not a great fan of the pirellis, rather go with a michelin tyre
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Im not a great fan of the pirellis, rather go with a michelin tyre
Why man did you try them out & did not like them or you simply jive talking i had M3 then i moved to the M5 which i got before and not to long ago i got my second set of M5 . As far as the Rosso 2 site member ( makct04) Moe got a set for his track days and loved them tires
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Marc, a bit more info like Moe suggested above would be a help. Any particular Pirelli you tried and didn't like? If so, why not?
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I have been running Pirelli for a while and I love them.
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I have been running Pirelli for a while and I love them.
What kind?
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Diablo Corsa III

I will probably be getting the Rosso next season since the Corsa is discontinued.
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^ i have the rossos. But i couldnt tell you anything as its the first and only set of tires ive had.
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Havent seen much info about the Pirelli Diablo Rosso 2. Heres some other tire comparison if anyone is interested.

2010 tire comparisons. ***Dunlop Q2 owned for 2010, im not a big dunlop fan but they got some awesome ratings, only thing im still wondering how well does it hold up against WET weather? what is the max lean degree angle in WET weather, better than 41.9 degree lean(Michelin Power 2CT)?

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http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/545/82...on-Review.aspx
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I'm not a big fan of perelli's in general, used them on my f2 and my rr and they are terrible for the street from what I remember. I can't say that they don't perform well, they just aren't for me. the pilot power 2ct's are my favorite tires to date.
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Did trackday monday with brand new diablo rosso ii. Air temp was 60 after lunch, low 50s earlier in the day, track was cold. Many people fell. I did a real easy 10 minute follow the leader session. First open session I was very cautious, second open session and tires were scrubbed all the way to the edges. Tires felt very good, occasionally on acceleration in an uphill section that goes left to right, you could feel light slip but kept throttle steady and all was good. Hardly any wear, guessing due to cold day. Then again most had little wear regardless of tires. Ran 30F, 27R for psi. Will ride them for first time on street today.
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they're somewhat pricey..eh?
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they're somewhat pricey..eh?
$120F / $140R give or take
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Does anyone else have anything more to add..? lol

I just purchased a set of Rosso ii's, so I will let ya know what I think. My OEM Qualifiers lasted 6k mi, and still have tread on the sides. The middle was eaten up by the AZ temps and commuting.

I plan on mounting my GoPro off of my passenger peg during my initial scrub in, since I haven't seen anyone else do it and I think it would look pretty cool..lol Might go to the flats, still haven't decided. I will keep you all posted.



Oh, I didn't go Q2 for any other reason than everybody seems to be running this tire. I wanted to be different even though STG has a smoking deal on the Q2's.

I've always been a fan of Pirelli's. I loved the Corsa III's! An amazing tire for my region at least.

The 900 had Pilot Powers and they were sticky too. Not so good in the wet though while I was out in Houston.

It was between the Rosso II's and the Angel ST's. I may go ST's after this set, though I wanted to give the Rosso's a shot for longevity.

Anyhow, I was curious if there was anything new to add to this discussion..
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AHHH DAMN!

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Beautiful tire so far. Easy warm up and seems to be operating really well @ 34psi in the front. Rebound and Compression Damping is set perfectly for the front.

The rear tire is a different story. A bit of cupping on the leading edge of the tread and a bit of heating issue, not too bad, though enough to have me pull out 2psi and add 2 clicks of Rebound Damping. I gotta roll to a "soiree" in a bit. I will check if changes make the difference I am looking for.

Thus far, handling has been excellent. Very confident in cornering as I seem to be pushing effortlessly in corner speed. Traction has not been an issue and temp was around 53 degrees this morning, 65 degrees currently. Payson is higher elevation, typically a -10 degree difference than the valley.

I will post some video later on of the ride and rear shot so you can see at speed what was going on. Till then, pictures of tire wear will have to suffice until I return later this evening. Still have to finish scrub in, though you can have a reference at least for now.

PSI 34F/32R *Current PSI after changes 34F/30R





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Still have to finish scrub in, though you can have a reference at least for now.
Scrub in is being sure you have the right pressures, get the tire warm and lean it over. That's it, end of story. Go out and ride them bad boys. Tires don't have mold release on them any more. I run the crap out of new tires fresh off of warmers on the very first lap at the track.

Proper pressure and up to temp then BAM...hit 'em hard.
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Scrub in is being sure you have the right pressures, get the tire warm and lean it over. That's it, end of story. Go out and ride them bad boys. Tires don't have mold release on them any more. I run the crap out of new tires fresh off of warmers on the very first lap at the track.

Proper pressure and up to temp then BAM...hit 'em hard.
I hear ya..lol Everything I hit today was high speed sweepers on crappy surfaces with Icon Field Armor Knee protection. So I am planning on a more technical tight corner area called Tortilla Flats. To be honest, I could just do it in a parking lot but what kind of video would that be? lol

I will do it just as soon as I can though.
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*Update*

So after I made a +2 click adjustment to Rebound Damping and -2 psi to rear tire pressure, the result is tire getting good heat and the cupping issue solved!

*The green arrow is pointing to the lip on the leading edge pealing off the excess build up due to a Rebound Damping issue that wasn't a problem with the previous OEM Dunlop Qualifiers.





*Charging GoPro right now, having coffee and working on clips of Payson ride. I will be heading out today to get some more video.
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This is why what the green arrow is point to in the pic above is gone/going.



Thought I would share..
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you just need more high speed rebound damping, i have that too on my Supercorsa SP, my rear shock would need to be revalved to address the issue.

to add to this thread i have been riding trackdays on Michelin tires ever since i got my CBR, started with regular Pilot Powers which were awesome tires during their time, Power Race which was better but mileage suffered which is understandable with a DOT race tire, Popwer Pures were the better than the latter as they gave great grip on dry & wet surfaces, i even won a race using that tire.

i tried the Bridgestone BT003 race tires & the rear grip was fantastic but the front felt vague & not confidence inspiring, after i wore through them (3 TD's) i got a set of Diablo Supercorsa SP & dropped 1.9sec off my best lap times with the BT003 on my first day with them, the next day i further improved my lap times by chopping .4sec off my best & doing it consistently. as i push harder these tires would just dig in & grip, no hint of slip at all, i'm now a believer, not going back to the Bridgestones unless they give me rubber for free to dial my suspension & get my confidence back.

i have also tuned a 1000RR using the Rosso Corsa rubber, i set the hot tire pressures using the ones recommended for the Dragon Supercorsa Pro & they work well for the track.

i have Michelin Power One race tires coming in this May so after i wear through these i will test them to get a comparison, yeah i know it's an apples & oranges thing but so what? the line between & street & track tires is getting more blurred every year as they start to trickle down technology they developed for racing into their street tires. if you raced with the DSC SP, Q2, 003RS, Power One 2CT 10yrs ago you'll be outlasting the DOT race tires of the time & offer the same or better grip.

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I actually got it dialed in perfectly without needing anything extra..lol Both tires are getting the proper heat and turns out that Rebound Damping was perfect on the front, the rear just needed to be adjusted +2 clicks.

I thought about going with the Pirelli Rosso Corsa's but there wasn't really a point. I don't do the track anymore, so it would be pointless for me to waste money on a sticky tire that will get eaten alive by the Arizona summer heat. I went for a compromise of grip/longevity. I figured I would try them before I went with a set of Angle ST's or Pilot Road 2's.

I've always been a huge fan of Pirelli Corsa iii, so I knew I would fall in love with these tires as well.

It appears a lot of people on this forum are given such crappy advice when it comes to setting up suspension and tire pressures. I figured I would share my experience with these tires and how easy it was for me to dial in suspension from a completely different brand previously. There is a lot of good information, though lately it isn't any firsthand experience.

Longevity + traction is all I am looking for in a tire. We shall see at the end of summer if these tires were worth it. So far, I am very pleased.
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I know this is an old thread but I just put a pair on my bike today. It's the first tire change so I cant compare them to anything other than the stockies, but so far they're a lot better and I haven't fully scrubbed em in yet. This tire (IMO) has very little commentary on it considering what, I believe, it competes with (Q2, 2CT, etc) and how much people have to say about those. I got them cheaper than I could've got Q2's or 2CT's FWIW.
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After a couple hundred miles (all dry) on these tires this is my verdict:

They feel very numb, the stock qualifiers have more feel than these IMO. There is grip, but it hasn't been easy for me to find the limit so to speak.

In hindsight I think should've spent the extra 40 on the Corsa's.
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After a couple hundred miles (all dry) on these tires this is my verdict:

They feel very numb, the stock qualifiers have more feel than these IMO. There is grip, but it hasn't been easy for me to find the limit so to speak.

In hindsight I think should've spent the extra 40 on the Corsa's.
It's your first set of tires, so I won't get on you for that. The stock Qualifiers are hard compared to these tires, though do offer feedback, just not as good as the Pirelli's.

Pics of your tire wear are always good for identifying how they are performing vs. just describing what you aren't feeling.

My Rosso ii's still look great and I am still pleased with the handling, I would buy them again..I just don't need tires right now.
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After a couple hundred miles (all dry) on these tires this is my verdict:

They feel very numb, the stock qualifiers have more feel than these IMO. There is grip, but it hasn't been easy for me to find the limit so to speak.

In hindsight I think should've spent the extra 40 on the Corsa's.
tire pressure & suspension setup go a long way to complement the tires, have you done both yet?
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havnt tried pirellis yet. any good for street tho? I love the q2'S
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