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Old 01-30-2012, 04:33 PM   #1
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gp reverse shift better?

just got new rear sets decided to try out the reverse shift ..how is the reverse shift better than stock shift on track ..what pros and cons
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Old 01-30-2012, 04:35 PM   #2
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I believe it's a more precise/quicker upshift and if you need to shift up a gear mid corner, you don't have to get your toe under the shifter and risk catching your toes on the ground. I like it better than standard shifting!
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Old 01-30-2012, 04:40 PM   #3
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one of the main advantages is it allows you to up shift with out moving your foot... so if your leaning coming around a long swooping turn you dont have to over rev the bike or try and move your foot under the sifter to up shift.
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It's just personal preference. It's common for racing because you can upshift while leaned over. Also, I find it's a lot easier to upshift tucked.
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Old 01-30-2012, 05:57 PM   #5
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preference if you ask me......I ride GP on the race bike & standard on the street. sometymes it gets confusing. Best is to try yourself & see what you like. I do like bangin up gears goin down tho!
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Once you go RSP youīll never go back!! Actually I donīt know why the bikes leave the factory with the normal shift pattern..Heck now that I have RSP I canīt even think about riding normal pattern.... I bought an Aprilia RS 250 with normal shift pattern and the ride home was far away like 50Miles...Jeeez it was confusing for my brain

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Old 01-30-2012, 06:11 PM   #7
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preference if you ask me......I ride GP on the race bike & standard on the street. sometymes it gets confusing. Best is to try yourself & see what you like. I do like bangin up gears goin down tho!
Wow bro hats off to you!! Last time I rode a bike with normal pattern my brain was going crazy! For me it was much easier to go from normal pattern to Reverse Shift Pattern....!!
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one of the main advantages is it allows you to up shift with out moving your foot...
Not true, you had better have the peg under the ball of your foot when not shifting, so even with GP shift you have to move your foot.

I like GP shift but you'll hate the first time you miss a downshift and run hot into a corner.
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Not true, you had better have the peg under the ball of your foot when not shifting, so even with GP shift you have to move your foot.

I like GP shift but you'll hate the first time you miss a downshift and run hot into a corner.
or go from second to first when you meant to go from second to third. ouchie. but i agree with most above, once you make the switch, you will love it.
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I like that Jordan video... damn, I need to find some time to do some mods... I have 3 mods to do already...

but these opinions helped... =)
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Once you go RSP youīll never go back!! Actually I donīt know why the bikes leave the factory with the normal shift pattern..Heck now that I have RSP I canīt even think about riding normal pattern.... I bought an Aprilia RS 250 with normal shift pattern and the ride home was far away like 50Miles...Jeeez it was confusing for my brain

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Old 01-30-2012, 09:19 PM   #12
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anyone got that link for "how to" GP shift mod?
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Old 01-30-2012, 09:33 PM   #13
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anyone got that link for "how to" GP shift mod?


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Old 01-30-2012, 09:48 PM   #14
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Oh man, when I watched that video, I was tripping out because I thought that rearset was moving all around! Crazy! lol
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Old 01-30-2012, 11:55 PM   #15
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Once you go RSP youīll never go back!! Actually I donīt know why the bikes leave the factory with the normal shift pattern..Heck now that I have RSP I canīt even think about riding normal pattern.... I bought an Aprilia RS 250 with normal shift pattern and the ride home was far away like 50Miles...Jeeez it was confusing for my brain

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i saw the way he down gear. i'm curious do u blip and drop 2 gear at the same time or u blip and drop 1 gear each time ?
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Old 02-03-2012, 09:44 AM   #17
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^^ you get into the gear you want to be in with no interruptions in between.
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So pretty much.... reverse the shift rod to the other side and make sure none of the rubber hoses or plastics hit and your good to go?

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Old 02-09-2012, 11:11 AM   #19
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yes may need a few zip ties to hold hoses out of way.

try it you will like it !

think before you shift and be deliberate in your 1-2 shifts as that is where you have the most chance of going the wrong way.!
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Old 02-09-2012, 12:07 PM   #20
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In all honesty, for street riding, I don't think it matters, it is preference. Track is a difference story.
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I've used Gp shifting on every bike i've ever owned, it feels more fluent and if someone wants to ride your bike it's an easy excuse to say no
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:36 AM   #22
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+1 for it being personal preference, but I cannot figure out why anyone would have standard as their personal preference! lol

Not many cons, other than getting mixed up.

Pros:
1.) It makes so much sense when you're riding!
2.) You never downshift when you're leaned over, but you do upshift while leaned over. Now you don't have to try to move your foot and get it UNDER the lever in order to shift.
3.) on high speed straights you can stay in a full tuck and use the least amount of effort to upshift.
4.) Downshifts occur when you're sitting up typically anyway, so it's easy to get your foot under the lever to downshift.

I'm sure there are more, but I'm still sleepy :)
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I did it for my bike.. Took me about a day to get use to it but now I wouldn't have it any other way.

I also have a video on my youtube channel on how to do this with stock sets
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I hate how ghetto it looks on the 07+. I ride street and stock rear sets.
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I hate how ghetto it looks on the 07+. I ride street and stock rear sets.
This is true. Ha. I've seen it on my buddy's 07 . And looks like ya all Jerry riged!


I'll be looking forward to the gp shift this coming season via my vortex sets.
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Gonna play devil's advocate here for an explanation why GP shift is not standard and standard shift is, well, standard. Most are taught and it's enshrined in MSF instruction to do all your shifting and braking before turning. Also taught in emergency stopping to do the same things with both hands and feet. Pull in on both hand levers and tapping down on both foot levers. For general purpose motorcycle riding this is all very logical. There are more occasions for fast downshifting than upshifting. It's only racers or performance oriented riders who would want to upshift while mid corner. In other riding you would enter a corner in a gear appropriate to see you all the way through and there's plenty of time to upshift when you're back mostly upright. It would make sense though for regular track riders and racers to run GP shift on the street as it facilitates one mode of muscle memory.
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This is true. Ha. I've seen it on my buddy's 07 . And looks like ya all Jerry riged!


I'll be looking forward to the gp shift this coming season via my vortex sets.
Not always! Just depends in if you take the time to do it right or clean.

I tell people and they sill don't notice until I point out the changes..

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The other reason for standard is us motocross guys. When we come into a corner we are all slid up on the seat and its a violent downshift into the corner. In that position it would be very hard to get your toe under the shifter. The opposite is true out of the gate or a corner, leaned forward with tbe butt back on the seat to keep the front wheel down. In that position (using GP) your whole foot would be on top the shifter intstead of using the peg as a pivot point. Its hard to explain unless you ride dirt but I dont race street so I just keep all my bikes standard.

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I like GP shift but you'll hate the first time you miss a downshift and run hot into a corner.
Haha yep it'll no matter where i go its always turn 1 lol. But i love gp tried riding my new bike home(2miles) and it sucked so bad
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I have GP shifting on my bike. My only big issue is right hand turns where you have to downshift before the turn. For example turn 2 at Streets of Willow in California. I find that I'm already moved to the right with half if my ass off the seat, and the bike is leaned over a bit but not too much yet. Now given the above body position, it is impossible for me to reach under the shifter with my left foot. And I have to move back to the middle of the seat just to down shift and move again to the right of the seat to get ready for the right turn.
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