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Old 10-31-2012, 11:23 PM   #1
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Thoughts on slipper clutch

I just bought some new sprockets. went with the -1/+2 gearing. I don't do track. If I do Whatever I'll still use it.

BUT after I do those, I was thinking about installing a slipper clutch (new one) And I hear YoYoDyne makes one of the best ones on the market.
Does anyone have any other brands that they may suggest to me? Or websites. So far YoYoDyne was the first I've come across, and A ton of you fine gentleman are a whole lot better at investigation and research then myself. Or If you've done it yourself!?
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Slipper Clutch is a lot of coin to drop on a mod. Great on the track since you can bang down the gears without worrying of upsetting the rear. But it's a bit of a waste on the streets. You could upgrade your suspension for cheaper with some Race Tech springs and valves and benefit from it a lot more than you could a slipper. I know other bikes come with a slipper OEM but they aren't as good as the aftermarket options. Your money and your bike but it's a bit of a waste if you're not tracking your bike.
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Slipper Clutch is a lot of coin to drop on a mod. Great on the track since you can bang down the gears without worrying of upsetting the rear. But it's a bit of a waste on the streets. You could upgrade your suspension for cheaper with some Race Tech springs and valves and benefit from it a lot more than you could a slipper. I know other bikes come with a slipper OEM but they aren't as good as the aftermarket options. Your money and your bike but it's a bit of a waste if you're not tracking your bike.
OH MAN! I'm glad you cleared that up. I thought a slipper clutch was just an add on to the CLUTCH itself. Dang. I would of dropped 1k+ easily on something I don't need. Shiiieeettt My back end doesn't skid out when I down shift hella hard. BLIP BLIP lol Or I just ease out the clutch slowly haha. Ok.

Well that changes my question: My bike has 21k miles on it, so I am sure the previous owner never changed the clutch. I had a stick shift car, I know what a slipping clutch feels like, but I'm not feeling any of that from my bike. However, I do end up in N a lot when I go to shift into 2nd from 1st. Most likely it's rider error because it doesn't happen all the time. It's probably cause I wear street shoes like a noob. But do you think just buying a new clutch and installing it would be a good idea?
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I would try and check to see if you can adjust the shift lever. Also see if the rod is properly positioned on the shaft as well. Sometimes things like hard shifting are because the pedal isn't in an optimal position relative to your foot. You may even have to shell out cash for aftermarket rear sets so you can have your foot and pedal exactly where you feel most comfortable.
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I would try and check to see if you can adjust the shift lever. Also see if the rod is properly positioned on the shaft as well. Sometimes things like hard shifting are because the pedal isn't in an optimal position relative to your foot. You may even have to shell out cash for aftermarket rear sets so you can have your foot and pedal exactly where you feel most comfortable.

I talked to SuSuCBR he said to have my foot more on the balls of my feet. I was trying that out a little while ago and it felt better. Less hitting N. I also think it might have something to do with my chain is like kinked and my rear sprocket is bent inward (friday when my new sprocket/chain 520 conversion comes in cant come soon enough!). But I don't know if that has anything to do with shifting. And by rod (stupid question incoming) you mean that "bar" that goes up and down from my gear pedal? hopefully I'm correct lol
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I've experienced the 2nd gear slip to neutral, as well as many other members. Just gotta jam that sucker in hard when going fast from 1st to 2nd WOT
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Yeah, that's the rod. Sometimes people will move that and not pay attention to how they remount it. The optimal position for it is to be at a 90 to the shaft coming from the motor. As far as gearing, it shouldn't affect your feel on shifting.
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I've experienced the 2nd gear slip to neutral, as well as many other members. Just gotta jam that sucker in hard when going fast from 1st to 2nd WOT

LOL! True!
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If you don't track it, why do you want to dump so much money for a slipper?
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I thought CBRs had slipper clutches...?

I thought I was told my 08 has a slipper clutch and all modern SS bikes do (besides ducatti dry) and that's why it's no worry to clutch less shift with out damage.. Please explain because I've been clutch less shifting since I started and I don't want to f my sh** up off bad wrong info
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No 600RR has a slipper clutch OEM. You can clutch less downshift no problem though. Bike transmissions are like F1 transmissions in that they do not have synchros that can wear/damage from a bad shift.
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Dam it I've been saying CBRs have has slippers this whole time because I swear some where some guy on here said we had them.. And he went in explaining how that's how clutch less shifting works for us that and straight cut gears
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Well he was right about the straight cut gears.
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If you don't track it, why do you want to dump so much money for a slipper?

I was confused. I just want to change out the regular clutch. My fault!
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Lot of confusion on here. Has anyone ridden two supersports back to back with and without slippers? Experiences please?
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Lot of confusion on here. Has anyone ridden two supersports back to back with and without slippers? Experiences please?
I have a bike with one and without one. Have had both of them on the track. I can downshift the 750 from a higher rpm without worrying about the rear tire locking up. Scrubbing off speed with engine braking is a little smoother. But I've never really had an issue locking up the tire on the CBR. If I was riding at a race pace, which I may next season in my quest for a CMRA license, then it may be more of an issue when you're looking for every 10th of a second you can get on your lap times (but I won't be racing the CBR anyway). If you're just a street rider or a novice on the track then a slipper is probably a waste of money. Put your cash into Ohlins suspension or brake mods or something. If you're locking up the rear then learn how to work the clutch and don't downshift at such a high rpm.
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I guess if you are riding hard enough on the street then maybe?
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I guess if you are riding hard enough on the street then maybe?
Riding at the point it would be matter would be very unsafe on the street. You shouldn't be pushing braking and downshifting to such a late point. I don't have much issue on the track if when I downshift the bike will be under 10k rpm. Over that, you have to be a bit more gentle on releasing the clutch or blip the throttle a bit.

Like others have said, there are so many better mods to do first. A track day would help your riding 10x more then a slipper but suspension and brakes would be much more meaningful upgrades.
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A slipper will be my 2nd to last mod on my track bike....performance mods being the last.
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I'm thinking I can just change the regular clutch maybe not add a slipper. Just to do it, it's not slipping but hell my bike got 21k+ so It's ready. Valve adjustments next!
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I don't want to start an argument over which oil to use but oil can effect your shifting on our bikes as well. As long as you use oil without friction modifiers you'll be ok.
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What's the up side of -1+2..? I always thought that was better for track for better acceleration and poppin clutch ups..?

What's the big reason everyone wants that set up? What's wrong with standard set up?
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Better acceleration is all there is too it. Some street people feel our bikes are too slow. Track people swap gears because idealistically you want to be maxed out in 6th gear at the end (braking point) of the longest straight for whatever track you're at. So you swap sprockets to find a gearing that suits the track. There is a trade off though, you lose high end top speed and your motor runs higher in the RPM range overall. Say you're cruising at 70 on a highway. What once was 7K RPM in 6th gear is now 8K RPM or more depending on what sprockets you run.
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Better acceleration is all there is too it. Some street people feel our bikes are too slow. Track people swap gears because idealistically you want to be maxed out in 6th gear at the end (braking point) of the longest straight for whatever track you're at. So you swap sprockets to find a gearing that suits the track. There is a trade off though, you lose high end top speed and your motor runs higher in the RPM range overall. Say you're cruising at 70 on a highway. What once was 7K RPM in 6th gear is now 8K RPM or more depending on what sprockets you run.
Ok so exactly what I thought.. Everyone swears by the change I figured it had to do more than just pop the front end up easier and accelerate quicker..

Figured I was missing something.. Guess not. I'm happy with my bike I almost want a higher top speed.. But don't want to lose acceleration.. But not lose size and light weight and go 1k bike..

I wish Honda would jump on the 750 wagon. That would be my idea track bike
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I don't want to start an argument over which oil to use but oil can effect your shifting on our bikes as well. As long as you use oil without friction modifiers you'll be ok.

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You should be fine then.

Yeah but I'm not too worried anymore. This monday I have to take my bike into CHP They pulled me over today because my license plate is too low. Then they said my bike was possibly stolen. They told me I have to go and get my VIN verified. Even though It is on my registration. and On the bike. Also the bike is registered and insured to me, so I don't know what the hell is going on. They said " it's not the whole bike. We think PARTS are stolen in it"... If so, how was I supposed to know when I bought it from craigslist? mehh, I don't want to think about it
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That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Bikes gut customized far more than any other vehicle out there. How could any one verify what's on there other than the frame? I'd ask a local PD and see what they say.
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Yeah but I'm not too worried anymore. This monday I have to take my bike into CHP They pulled me over today because my license plate is too low. Then they said my bike was possibly stolen. They told me I have to go and get my VIN verified. Even though It is on my registration. and On the bike. Also the bike is registered and insured to me, so I don't know what the hell is going on. They said " it's not the whole bike. We think PARTS are stolen in it"... If so, how was I supposed to know when I bought it from craigslist? mehh, I don't want to think about it
I think you just got unlucky with some cops that didn't get laid in a while. Or they watched SuperTroopers, and thought they are just as cool
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I think you just got unlucky with some cops that didn't get laid in a while. Or they watched SuperTroopers, and thought they are just as cool
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