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Old 01-15-2006, 04:46 PM   #1
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Just washed my bike and now it wont start

I am at a loss as to what has happened and I have been searching through past posts for about an hour trying different things as I go. Heres the situation: I washed my bike today, same way I always have, only this time after I dryed it and let it sit for 30 minutes it wouldnt start. I also noticed that my head lights don't come on, my blinkers don't work, the gauges do work, and when I turn the kill switch to the on position the fuel pump does not come on but if I hit the starter button it does turn over. I have checked the fuses under the seat and the ones under the left farring and they are all good and I varifed they are getting power with a test light. Is there some sort of relay for all these that could have gotten wet when washing it and if so where is it located?
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Old 01-15-2006, 04:50 PM   #2
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You check the battery?
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Old 01-15-2006, 04:53 PM   #3
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It has power, I'm pretty sure the batter is not the problem since when I hit the starter button it turns over and sounds normal (not like it is straining or dieing). I havent put a load tester on it though.
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Old 01-15-2006, 04:56 PM   #4
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Just charge it.
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Got a Voltmeter? If so then you will know......
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if your battery has enough juice your lights , turn signals should work
& your fuel pump should prime as you stated none of these come on
ie your battery do not have enough juice recharge the battery and give
it a try
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Old 01-15-2006, 05:03 PM   #7
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Ok, I tested it with a load tester and its fine. I also tried hooking up another motorcycle batter that i know is good and it did not change anything.
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Old 01-15-2006, 05:04 PM   #8
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if your battery has enough juice your lights , turn signals should work
& your fuel pump should prime as you stated none of these come on
ie your battery do not have enough juice recharge the battery and give
it a try
thats the thing, the head lights dont come on, the turn signals dont work, the fuel pump does not work, the horn does not work, ... the only thing that works is the gauge cluster and the starter button.
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Old 01-15-2006, 05:08 PM   #9
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Umm...you sure it's in neutral?....hahaha
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I'm positive its in neutral.

Here's some more information, all the problems seem to be concerning the front end of the bike. I was looking it over to see what is and isnt working and my rear turn signals, parking light, and brake light work. The front turn signals dont and the turn signal indicaters on the gauges dont activate.
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Old 01-15-2006, 05:20 PM   #11
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I'm positive its in neutral.

Here's some more information, all the problems seem to be concerning the front end of the bike. I was looking it over to see what is and isnt working and my rear turn signals, parking light, and brake light work. The front turn signals dont and the turn signal indicaters on the gauges dont activate.
Oh, then check your connections for the guage and turn signals. If they're not properly connected securely then the bike won't turn on.
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Old 01-15-2006, 05:32 PM   #12
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Oh, then check your connections for the guage and turn signals. If they're not properly connected securely then the bike won't turn on.
What is the easiest way to get to that connector?
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take the black plastic piece that attaches the ram air nostrils together it is underneath the upper and from there reach in and check the cluster plug
another point is the plug is secure take the left side ram air cover and check the dual plugs that are underneath make sure they are secure and are not wet
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Old 01-15-2006, 05:38 PM   #14
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They should be just hanging out if you look down to the left of your gauge. Kinda right next to your left ram air duct cowl.

Make sure you wipe away all excessive water and sh!t.

Man, this is why you don't wash your bike. Just use Honda polish!
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you can wash your biike but not with a hose and a strong stream of water
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you can wash your biike but not with a hose and a strong stream of water
True but I only do if there dry mud or crap all over. But it's easier to use Honda Polish than lugging around the hose, bucket of water, and all that other junk.
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Well at this point all i can really hope for is that there is something wet that needs to dry out. I have taken the front end off the bike and all the connections are fine. There are just a bunch of things that dont make sense.

1. The blinkers: The rear works, I have power going all the way to the blinkers at the front but they dont work (Greggs blinkers, both sides). The gauge cluster doesnt display that the blinkers are working either.

2. The fuel pump: I cant find a reason that wont turn on either.

3. The Headlights and the running light done come on and the high beam indicator doesnt light up on the display when you flip the switch.

I have checked all the connectors and fuses I could find and still nothing. It was mentioned in here not to spray tons of water on it when washing it with a hose and I dont. I live in Florida and I ride everyday, during the rainy season I do get caught in very heavy rain so I cant see how it can make it through that and not a little water from a hose. Either way though something did get messed up and hopefully it will dry out and work again, if not I hope the warranty will cover this.
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Old 01-15-2006, 07:02 PM   #18
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Do you have a mechanic's manual for your bike? How mechanically inclined are you?

It may sound like a stupid question but you'd be surprise how many people can't tell between a blown fuse and which way to turn to loosen a nut.
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Do you have a mechanic's manual for your bike? How mechanically inclined are you?

It may sound like a stupid question but you'd be surprise how many people can't tell between a blown fuse and which way to turn to loosen a nut.
I have the Honda Service Manual for my bike.

I am pretty mechanically inclided. My dad was a auto mechanic for 30+ years so I grew up working on cars. As for bikes, he and i have rebuilt 2 bikes together. As far as telling the difference between a blown fuse and one that isnt, I know the difference and even if I missed one during a visual inspection I have verified them all using a test light.
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is it possible that the bank angle sensor is wet
that is the only thing that would have have such an effect
or the 30 amp fuse under the driver's seat is shot
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is it possible that the bank angle sensor is wet
that is the only thing that would have have such an effect
or the 30 amp fuse under the driver's seat is shot

That could be it, Moe.
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is it possible that the bank angle sensor is wet
that is the only thing that would have have such an effect
or the 30 amp fuse under the driver's seat is shot
The Fuse under the seat is fine, I checked that first.

Where is the bank angle sensor located?
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on the backside of the headlights between the low beam & high beam
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Old 01-16-2006, 01:57 AM   #24
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I just went outside to check if by any chance it was working again, its not, but i noticed that my gauges no longer light up.

Its hard to believe that I could be having this many individual problems from washing the bike. If anyone has any suggestions on what could be wrong I'm open to suggestions. At this point its looking like I'm gonna take the bike to the dealer tomorrow, I figure this should be covered under warranty.
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Keep us posted.. Seems like a dead battery,
I wouldn't know what else would cause this..

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Old 01-16-2006, 02:14 AM   #26
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check the grounds.....it could have gotten corroded/rusted from prior washes. you could have all the power you want at the components, but they wont work without a good ground. i dont know much on the electrical side of the bike. but power and ground are the basics for electrical stuff to work. i work avionics on aircraft, and bad grounds causes components to not work right. jus as in your case. jus a suggestion. gl mang.

oh and also...i agree with the dead battery. a battery can hold a charge and have voltage. but you need current. if the battery cant hold a load....then you wont have enough current to make anything work properly.
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does anyone know if there is a grounding point up front and where it is?
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It's just so weird that your bike won't start after a simple wash.

Yeah, keep us posted. I'd like to know what the cause was.

Man, I wished you lived near me. I'd come over and help you out.
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does anyone know if there is a grounding point up front and where it is?
Take your left mid off and a bolt for your fairing bracket as a bunch of green wires.. Thats the ground.

So all you did, was wash your bike? I done this a million times with water.. rode in the rain for long periods of time.. Nothing like this..

Sorry I can't be more of a help for you..
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It's just so weird that your bike won't start after a simple wash.

Yeah, keep us posted. I'd like to know what the cause was.

Man, I wished you lived near me. I'd come over and help you out.
That would have been a big help. I dont get how a simple wash could cause this much damage but im sure there is a simple explanation for it all. I decided to call the dealership today and since my bike has a month left on the warranty im gonna hand the headache over to them. I talked to one of the service guys and explained what happened and he said it should be covered under warranty. I would love to figure out whats wrong myself and fix it but I'm not gonna have much free time over the next week and I'd rather just get it fixed, especially if its free. Ill let everyone know what the problem was once I find out. Thanks to everyone for the help.
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