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Old 01-12-2008, 02:49 AM   #1
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What size tire can i fit on a stock cbr600rr rim

What size tire can i fit on a stock cbr600rr rim
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Old 01-12-2008, 10:01 AM   #2
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180/55 or a 190/55 that's all I would run!!!

I run the 190/55
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Old 01-13-2008, 12:50 AM   #3
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If you want to maximize the bikes handling charactaristics, stick with the same size tire that came on your bike. On a CBR600 there will be no advantage gained from going to a wider tire.
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Old 01-13-2008, 09:09 AM   #4
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If you want to maximize the bikes handling charactaristics, stick with the same size tire that came on your bike. On a CBR600 there will be no advantage gained from going to a wider tire.
Obviously, you never tried a 190/55 did you?

I used to make the same claim, before I tried it.

Unless you have experience I wouldn't make a comment.

There is a MAJOR advantage with going to a 190/55!!!!

A 190 is increasing the contact patch with the asphalt while at a lean angle. Being a 55 it will maintain a similar profile.

Next time you go to a race, stop and check out what the pros are running and ask your self, why?
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Old 01-15-2008, 10:55 PM   #5
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Next time you go to a race, stop and check out what the pros are running and ask your self, why?
Actually it's a pretty even mix between 180s and 190s in the 600 classes. Some racers gain an advantage from the mm of increased area while others benefit more from a more agile setup. No better way of knowing which one is better for you than to try both of them out.
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Old 01-16-2008, 02:37 PM   #6
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No better way of knowing which one is better for you than to try both of them out.
Couldn't agree with you more!!!
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Old 01-16-2008, 05:38 PM   #7
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On the track I've run Dunlop 195/75 rear wets and a 195/70 cut-slick (or/75 I can never remember).

No handling issues as far as I was concerned - I've run the cut-slick back-to-back with a 190/55 209GP and didn't feel much difference apart from slightly higher gearing.

For those who say those tyres aren't right for the rim Dunlop were supplying the 195 rear wet for riders in British Supersport - who have to run standard rims. They can't run the slick cos the rules won't let them.
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Old 01-18-2008, 03:35 PM   #8
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180/55 or a 190/55 that's all I would run!!!

I run the 190/55
the 190/55 is supposed to be the hot track setup!
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Old 07-27-2008, 01:13 AM   #9
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I have some 190/50's lieing around. Would you recommend this tire given the profile. Anyone have experience with this size?
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Old 07-27-2008, 12:23 PM   #10
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the 190/55 is supposed to be the hot track setup!
I like it, but I just ordered a set of rims from Brad, getting a 6" rear from CZ, we'll see how it feels on the 600!

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I have some 190/50's lieing around. Would you recommend this tire given the profile. Anyone have experience with this size?
NOT on a 5.5" rim!!! 55 yes, 50 NO!
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Old 07-27-2008, 08:41 PM   #11
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I think there are too many things in the specifics of this topic to provide a meaningful answer in one or two lines. Much depends on how the bike will be used and what purpose do you plan for these tires.
The whole argument about 180 is faster turn in then a 190 has gone out the window with modern tire technology. When it gets down to it, the dimensions are different on tires with the same markings in the same brand and when compared to other brands.
TenKate supersports run 190 tires and that is about as fast a turn in as you are going to see on DOT tires.

I have used 180/55 17 D208GP rear that is taller (mounted) than a 190/55 17 rear D209GP. Now the 190/55 17 D211GP is about the same size as the 190/55 in height but a little narrower. The carcass shape and and thickness is totally different than any Dunlop tire that fits this rear wheel than I have seen.
We have tried many tires on the track. So far the 190/55 D209GPs are the fastest turning but I think the scuffing session next Saturday at Buttonwillow will change that opinion from the look/feel.
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Old 07-27-2008, 08:44 PM   #12
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NOT on a 5.5" rim!!! 55 yes, 50 NO!
+1 I think a 50 profile 190 would be very loose feeling, not enough support of the side walls.
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Old 07-27-2008, 09:43 PM   #13
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i just stick to the 180's! dont like to switch it up
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i just stick to the 180's! dont like to switch it up
If you never try anything how will you ever know? Or ever get 'better' at anything?

Gotta experiment!
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I just ordered a set and can't wait to try them I was looking for something that lasted longer then my qualifers but just as sticky sounds like these are great tires. I will let u know what I think!
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