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MotoGP Official Test –Jerez: Official Times as of 1pm

1.Andrea Dovizioso Repsol Honda 1´43.948
2.Alex De Angelis San Carlo Honda Gresini 1´44.187
3.Toni Elias San Carlo Honda Gresini 1´44.943
4.James Toseland Tech3 Yamaha 1´44.091
5.Vittoriano Guareschi Ducati Marlboro 1´47.397
6.Mika Kallio Alice Team 1´47.838
7.Yuki Takahashi Scot Racing 1´48.601
8.Colin Edwards Tech3 Yamaha 1´49.779
9.Nicky Hayden Ducati Marlboro 2´00.519
10.Niccolo Canepa Alice Team 2´12.882

Casey Stoner is in the pits giving Hayden some advice on how to ride the beast, but the temperature is chilly and Hayden's only better than Ducati's long time test rider. But it's still early and I am sure there is more to come! Stoner has opted NOT to take a vacation but to oversee the development of the GP09. Rossi has yet to make an appearance.

Colin Edwards and James Toseland got their version of next year's M1 on Bridgestones. Edwards is now working with Guy Coulon, who left Toseland and switched with Edwards long time crew chief.

Oops, here's the latest update:


1. Colin Edwards (Yamaha) - 1'42 "944 (8 laps)
2. Andrea Dovizioso (Honda) - 1'43 "948 (12)
3. Alex De Angelis (Honda) - 1'44 "187 (7)
4. James Toseland (Yamaha) - 1'44 "776 (8)
5. Toni Elias (Honda) - 1'44 "943 (14)
6. Nicky Hayden (Ducati) - 1'45 "546 (9)
7. Vittoriano Guareschi (Ducati) - 1'47 "397 (5)
8. Mika Kallio (Ducati) - 1'47 "838 (13)
9. Yuki Takakashi (Honda) - 1'47 "875 (11)
10. Niccolò Canepa (Ducati) - 1'49 "878 (6)
11. Sete Gibernau (Ducati) - 1'56 "601 (2)

Sete has made an appearance and now Nicky is at the top of the Ducatis. Apparently, the wind and low temperatures are slowing the test speeds down, probably in combination with the new control tires. There's still plenty of time to make up considering the Jerez lap times were down in the 1'40s. So far, Kallio leads the pack with having done 13 laps!
 

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Here's what's going on "down undah"... Bad news for Team Green when your test rider is faster than your real riders. To John's credit though, he's struggling with an injury that's been reaggravated and making him not 100% fit.

Testing at Phillip Island - Nov. 26

1. Loris Capirossi (Suzuki) - 1'31 "5 (94 laps)
2. Chris Vermeulen (Suzuki) - 1'31 "9 (104)
3. Olivier Jacque (Kawasaki) - 1'32 "4 (85)
4. Marco Melandri (Kawasaki) - 1'32 "5 (93)
5. John Hopkins (Kawasaki) - 1'33 "3 (76)
 

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Niccolo Canepa is testing a new "rear brake" feature on his Ducati. The rear brake LEVER (yup, you heard me) is on the left handlebar, actuated by the thumb, instead of by the right foot. Here's a picture:

 

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And all it takes is SEVEN laps for Rossi to set the pace and top the time charts. At 1pm, Rossi clocked a 1'41.248. He's .664 seconds clear of #2 man, Dani Pedrosa. Running around in fourth is Jorge, who is only on his second time with the Japanese rubber. Fifth is Colin with a 1'42.798 with Nicky Hayden down in 7th.
 

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HRC Gives Pneumatics to Satellite Teams

HRC has decided that the right move for the satellite teams is to have the pneumatic valved motors, not just the factory squad, not just Toni Elias, the whole Honda contingent. That means, Alex deAngelis, Randy De Puniet, Yuki will have the same motor as Dani and Dovi (and Toni). The rest of the satellite teams will not receive their new machines until the first test of the 2009 year (Sepang). It seems that Honda is tired of coming in third place in the Constructors title, especially since they fill 2/3rds of the grid with motorcycles! It might also have to do with every other manufacturer providing their riders with "factory" machines.
 

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Not to disappoint, update from 1:30PM:

The timing at 14.30:

1. Pedrosa (Repsol-Honda) 1.40.562 (rev 18)
2. Rossi (Fiat-Yamaha) 1.41.013 (18)
3. Lorenzo (Fiat-Yamaha) 1.41.221 (27)
4. Elias (San Carlo-Honda) 1.41.990 (37)
5. Edwards (Tech 3-Yamaha) 1.42.051 (25)
6. De Angelis (San Carlo-Honda) 1.42.295 (27)
7. Toseland (Tech 3-Yamaha) 1.42.576 (26)
8. Hayden (Marlboro-Ducati) 1.42.774 (28)
9. Dovizioso (Repsol-Honda) 1.43.010 (26)
10. Canepa (Alice-Ducati) 1.43.905 (25)
11. Kallio (Alice-Ducati) 1.43.944 (31)
12. Gibernau (Onde2000-Ducati) 1.44.470 (9)
13. Takahashi (Scot-Honda) 1.44.830 (39)
14. Guareschi (Ducati) 1.45.145 (17)
 

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Good to see Nicky is better acquainted to the bike. I really hope that the rest of the Ducati riders are comfortable with their bikes, I'm really rooting for them as a whole to do well.
 

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The times at 4PM:

1. Pedrosa (Repsol-Honda) 1.39.525 (40)
2. Rossi (Fiat-Yamaha) 1.40.135 (rev 39)
3. Lorenzo (Fiat-Yamaha) 1.41.163 (51)
4. Edwards (Tech 3-Yamaha) 1.41.390 (41)
5. De Angelis (San Carlo-Honda) 1.41.468 (53)
6. Toseland (Tech 3-Yamaha) 1.41.539 (49)
7. Elias (San Carlo-Honda) 1.41.679 (65)
8. Dovizioso (Repsol-Honda) 1.41.888 (40)
9. Canepa (Alice-Ducati) 1.412.074 (50)
10. Hayden (Marlboro-Ducati) 1.42.098 (60)
11. Kallio (Alice-Ducati) 1.42.837 (52)
12. Gibernau (Onde2000-Ducati) 1.42.943 (27)
13. Guareschi (Ducati) 1.43.642 (35)
14. Takahashi (Scot-Honda) 1.44.360 (64)
 

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By the way, MotoGP site has the WORST coverage of the testing. Seriously, by far, the WORST! Can't believe I paid for it.
 

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Official MotoGP Site Times

Pos Rider Team Fastest lap Gap Laps
1 Dani Pedrosa Honda Repsol 1:39.525 - 41
2 Valentino Rossi Fiat Yamaha Team 1:40.135 +0.610 39
3 Jorge Lorenzo Fiat Yamaha Team 1:41.163 +1.638 51
4 Colin EDWARDS Tech3 Yamaha 1:41.390 +1.865 49
5 Alex De Angelis Team San Carlo 1:41.468 +1.943 53
6 James Toseland Tech3 Yamaha 1:41.539 +2.014 50
7 Andrea Dovizioso Honda Repsol 1:41.655 +2.130 48
8 Toni Elias San Carlo Honda Gresini 1:41.679 +2.154 75
9 Niccolo Canepa Alice Team 1:42.074 +2.549 50
10 Nicky Hayden Ducati Marlboro Team 1:42.098 +2.573 69
11 Mika Kallio Alice Team 1:42.837 +3.312 58
12 Sete Gibernau Grupo Francisco hernando 1:42.943 +3.418 40
13 Vitto Guareschi Ducati Marlboro Team 1:43.642 +4.117 36
14 Yuki Takahashi JiR Team Scot Honda 1:44.360 +4.835 64
15 Vitto Guareschi Ducati Marlboro Team 1:45.145 +5.010 22

You see what I mean about worst coverage? Why is Vitto listed twice? And this was posted WAY after they were done.
 

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Nicky Hayden "not thrilled" about 10th

Rookie Niccolo Canepa was 0.024s faster than the 2006 world champion as he clocked 69 laps with injured team-mate Casey Stoner evaluating his performance from trackside.

“I know I’ve got a lot of work to do and obviously I need to go a lot faster, “Hayden told MCN in the back of the Ducati truck tonight. “I feel fast but I’m definitely not thrilled by the times.

"The lap times were quite slow to be honest and I’m not happy to be so far off the pace and be where I am but I never expected it to click and just happen overnight. It is early days yet and I’m not too worried. Hopefully it will come.”

Hayden was at least delighted with the performance of the new Jerez track surface, which was laid in August.

“The track is unbelievable at the moment. It is really smooth and that has helped make the bike not feel anywhere near as loose as it did in Valencia. The track was in great shape once we cleaned the line and it warmed up.

"Some of these tracks when they have been resurfaced, by the time we get there you can see patches and sealer but it is really smooth. They have taken out some of the big bumps too which shows they have done a great job, because sometimes it is hard to completely take out the big, big bumps.”

Hayden said he planned to sit down and talk about his progress with Aussie team-mate Stoner tonight. Stoner is in the early stages of a three-month recovery from a major right wrist operation, but he was in Jerez.

Hayden added: “I’ll sit down with Casey and have a chat and ask him what he’s seeing out there. That kind of stuff always helps. But to actually compare his data is difficult because of the new surface.”

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Nicky Hayden is considerably off the pace on the Ducati as in Feb 2008, Hayden clicked off the fastest test time with a 1:38.848 on the pneumatic Honda. So, he's got another 4 seconds in him somewhere.

EDIT: That was done in Feb. 2008, so the temps are different. Nicky clocked a 1'40.923 (63 laps) in November of 2007. So that's more comparable to this year's effort.
 

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Repsol Team gets New V4

A new spec Honda RC212V engine helped Dani Pedrosa clock the best time on the opening day of testing at a cool and windy Jerez.

Using two new 2009 prototype machines at the final test session of 2008, the Spaniard clocked a best time of 1.39.525 as most of the MotoGP field assessed a new surface at the Jerez circuit.

Pedrosa’s best time was set on the penultimate lap of a 41-stint today as most of this morning was spent waiting for track temperatures to reach a level where meaningful testing was possible.

Air temperatures were only seven degrees earlier, but once on track, Pedrosa was always in the top three as his best time beat his own lap record by 0.6s. He was also 0.610s clear of reigning world champion Valentino Rossi, who was back on two wheels today after his recent Ford Focus rally and Ferrari Formula One appearances.

Pedrosa, who finished third in the 2008 world championship, said: “They resurfaced the whole track in August and the new one is very grippy and smooth. I could do some good lap times despite the cold temperature and strong wind.

"We focused mainly on the engine but the low temperatures mean we started late and stopped early, so we need another day to give a better evaluation of the latest engine configuration, which is quite different than before.”

New teammate Andrea Dovizioso was immediately delighted with his first taste of the 2009 prototype V4.

The Italian was seventh quickest having clocked a best time of 1.41.655 in 48 laps.

The former world 125 champion has one 2008 bike and one new prototype at his disposal and he said: “I did three or four exits on the 2008 bike and then started on the 2009 bike. The feeling was immediately much better.

"The whole package is better and it feels more controllable. It is a good sign that the new prototype is already better.”

The satellite teams have the 2008 pneumatic motors.
 

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DUCATI MARLBORO TEAM KICK OFF FINAL TEST OF 2008 AT JEREZ

Jerez de la Frontera, (Spain). The Ducati Marlboro Team began their final MotoGP test session of the year today, ahead of the testing ban that gets underway on 1st December 2008 and runs until 20th January 2009. Recent Ducati signing Nicky Hayden lapped alongside factory test rider Vittoriano Guareschi, with team-mate Casey Stoner watching from pit wall.

The Australian, who has stayed in Europe for the first phase of his recovery from an operation on his left wrist on the 30th October, was keen to link up with the team at the test, albeit as a spectator. An x-ray on the joint carried out in Modena yesterday was positive and Stoner will be able to start light training in around two weeks' time.

Despite bright sunshine in the south of Spain, low track temperatures prevented the riders from taking to the track until lunchtime today. Hayden was still able to rack up 69 laps, improving his feeling with the bike on each outing and ending the day as the 10th fastest rider on track.

Nicky Hayden - 10th fastest - 1'42.098 (69 laps)
"It has been nice to get back on the bike and get on with the job in decent conditions. The new surface is perfect, the bumps have disappeared and the grip improved with every lap. They've done a great job here at Jerez. I'm quite happy with my feeling with the bike. The lap times came down with virtually every outing and that's positive, even though I'm still clearly a good way off the pace. We've got a lot of work ahead but the team is really close and we know that bike has the potential, so all we can do is keep working. Both tyre specs that we tried today worked well, although the softer one was obviously the preferable option in these temperatures. They've got no problem in terms of durability and I'm slowly starting to get used to the feeling the Bridgestones give back. Hopefully the good weather continues tomorrow."

Casey Stoner
"Yesterday the doctors told me that everything is going okay with my wrist, now I must wait and see. With the new cast they did yesterday I will be able to start some training on a pushbike so that is positive. In a few days I'll be heading back to Australia and it will be nice to be home for a while. It was a very strange feeling to be watching today instead of riding. This is probably the longest period I've gone without riding a bike at all since I was three years old! I'll definitely have a lot of motivation to get back on track in February. It is good to watch the bikes on track together with my engineers and then speak about it with Filippo (Preziosi) and Nicky, to share our feelings and see what we can do to improve our machine for next season."
 

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Niccolo Canepa is testing a new "rear brake" feature on his Ducati. The rear brake LEVER (yup, you heard me) is on the left handlebar, actuated by the thumb, instead of by the right foot. Here's a picture:

soop thumb brakes are seriously old, some riders like then some don't. i tried one a few years back but couldn't rear get on with it
 

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I could see the utility in a thumb brake but I can also see some serious hand fatigue. But when you've ridden a certain way for so many years, it is hard to switch to something else. Canepa had a hard time with it this morning, but you know, for the video game generation, it might be the next big thing!
 

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Canepa said he's using the thumb brake because is foot is too big for the normal brake like the other riders. Interesting reason. Didn't realize your foot could be so big that it encumbers your ability to use the foot levers.
 
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