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Heading to work this morning and went around a bus. When I did there was a red light right ahead with a couple cars already stopped. I slammed on the brakes pretty hard, front and back. The back end waved left and right so I let off the brakes and reapplied. Scary stuff, its my first bike and its new, im taking it in today for the 600 mile service and a new exhaust.
 

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your lucky crashing sucks
 

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haha yea that happens to me all the time when rear wheel locks up and the tail goes left and right..
 

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I think a good way to recover is to stand up a little on the foot pegs, shifting weight on the front end, allowing the back to do what it has to without much weight and momentum to cause a problem.
 

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Deja_Vu said:
I thought you were suppose stay on the rear brake when it locks up?
It's almost like sliding on ice—without any traction, you're just gonna keep on going. I guess that's why they teach us at the MSF to release and reapply.
 

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If the bike is pretty much tracking straight with the back locked up it's fine to let go and reapply the brake, but if it's way out of alignment you want to stay on it.
 

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watch yourself bro! sounds like you were tailinggating that bus.
if your gonna follow something big. keep your distance.
and stay in the #1 or #3 part of the lane that you are in.
itll allow you to see past that large obstacle called a bus, or whatever.
 

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Arcrist said:
Heading to work this morning and went around a bus. When I did there was a red light right ahead with a couple cars already stopped. I slammed on the brakes pretty hard, front and back. The back end waved left and right so I let off the brakes and reapplied. Scary stuff, its my first bike and its new, im taking it in today for the 600 mile service and a new exhaust.
School bus or transit bus? I don't know about everywhere else, but going around a bus isn't even legal, under certain circumstances, in CA. If you can't get at least one lane over, make sure you're gowing slow as hell around buses. With the yellow kind there are always kids wanting to pop out around the front. With the transit kind... well, you never know what a crackhead might do (and if you think that's making some kind of generalization, it is. I rode public transit for years and there was always at least once crackhead on the bus. Yay california!).
 

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yeah it's cool though. That happened to me the other night. I just left someones house and was taking my bike home. Someone was following me so I can drop off my bike and then they were going to take me back to the party. The nightime condensation set in. I came up to a light as it turned yellow. As I looked into my mirror I saw that the guy following me was far enough back that he would have to run the red for me to stay in his sights. Anyway long story short I locked up the rear and my bike started sliding left to right. Felt kind of cool just like the races on TV. Anyway I let off the brakes and reapplied. Everything was all good. My front tire ended up barely past the crosswalk so I just started walking my bike back to where it should of stopped and that was that.
 

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if your back tire is swerving left and right you shouldnt let off the rear brake or you will potentially highside if the rear brake catches the wrong line.

as someone mentioned if your rear brake is locked up in a straight line you may be able to get away with reapplying the brake. but swerving left and right ? dont think so.

in terms of weight i think you'd want to keep your weight back so you can use more front brake without doing a nose stand.

just going by the laws of physics. anyone care to elaborate?
 

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I wasn't tailing the bus, it was in the distance, i came up to it and then went around. The bus was in movement so it was legal to pass.
 

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take your riding slower and dont follow cars so closely allow yourself more time to react...and this wont happen.... AS MUCH :)
 

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Leason learned, it's a jungle out there.

Becare and wear your gear.

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I've fishtailed the hell out of mine when I first started riding,
I used to always use the rear brake more than the front.
Tried to do a 50-0 in about 20 ft (30% front and 70% rear)...
fishtailed and blew the stop sign, almost crapped my pants. :confused1
But when you are fishtailing...it's the same as they teach you with cars...
you have to counter-steer against it, back-end going right, you pull the front to the right.
If you steer WITH it, you'd just do circles.
MSF taught me:
Practice using both brakes to stop.
When the REAR WHEEL LOCKS, KEEP IT LOCKED.
When the FRONT WHEEL LOCKS, DISENGAGE AND REAPPLY.
Careful out there, Ride on the street SAFELY and keep the shiny side up!
 

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BiGxbOix510 said:
I've fishtailed the hell out of mine when I first started riding,
I used to always use the rear brake more than the front.
Tried to do a 50-0 in about 20 ft (30% front and 70% rear)...
fishtailed and blew the stop sign, almost crapped my pants. :confused1
But when you are fishtailing...it's the same as they teach you with cars...
you have to counter-steer against it, back-end going right, you pull the front to the right.
If you steer WITH it, you'd just do circles.
MSF taught me:
Practice using both brakes to stop.
When the REAR WHEEL LOCKS, KEEP IT LOCKED.
When the FRONT WHEEL LOCKS, DISENGAGE AND REAPPLY.
Careful out there, Ride on the street SAFELY and keep the shiny side up!

I'm gonig to state the obvious...

When you lock up the rear wheel and it's sliding and starts to come around on you...pull the clutch in...and release your rear break and let the back end straighten out and then hit the break again. (HOLD THE CLUTCH IN!)

I have found this has saved me a number of times from sliding completely sideways.
 

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Well the clutch should be in anways when your braking right? I guess you could brake and let off the throttle for some extra engine braking, but when i see a stop coming, i pull in the clutch and brake.
 

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dang man, just understand this (i learned the hard way by crashing), your not superman/woman on your bike....9 times out of 10 when you go down.....it could be your last....there might not be a rewind button on that video tape....take it easy, slow down, keep your eyes on the road and wear your gear!
 
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