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AMA Racers Suspended, Fined, Docked Points For Tech Infractions At Laguna Seca

Sep 20, 2007

From a press release issued by AMA Pro Racing:

PENALTIES ASSESSED FOLLOWING AMA SUPERBIKE CHAMPIONSHIP FINALE

PICKERINGTON, Ohio (September 20, 2007) – AMA Racing has announced that riders Martin Cardenas, Jake Holden, Morgan Murphy, Shaun Summers and Aaron Yates have been penalized following the season-ending AMA Superbike Championship event from Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca on Sept. 16, 2007.

In pre-race technical inspection, the motorcycles of Murphy and Summers were found to be using engines that were not homologated for the class. In post-race technical inspection, the motorcycles of Cardenas, Holden and Yates were found to have illegal modifications to the crankcase breather tube(s).

Murphy and Summers were disqualified from the event and received six month suspensions. Cardenas, Holden and Yates have been fined $2,000 and will forfeit 20 points. Cardenas, Holden and Yates will retain their finishing positions from the event.

As noted on page 30, section 3.1 Homologation, a, of the 2007 AMA Superbike rulebook (www.amaproracing.com/rulebook), Only homologated motorcycles may be used in Supersport and Superstock competition.

Also, as noted on page 31, section 3.5 Engines, b, Except as noted, all internal and external engine parts must remain stock with no modifications….



(Editorial note: Murphy's GSX-R600 had been built using GSX-R750 engine internal parts to boost displacement, and Summers' GSX-R600 had been fitted with a complete GSX-R750 engine.)
 

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Editorial note: Murphy's GSX-R600 had been built using GSX-R750 engine internal parts to boost displacement, and Summers' GSX-R600 had been fitted with a complete GSX-R750 engine

LOL!! Hahahaha! Those two guys are heroes!
 

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Hahaha, what the heck are your wrench monkeys thinking!?!?!?! It's PRO racing, they're going to check your equipment! And using an engine with 150cc extra displacement! ******* crazy!
 

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glad they got caught; although in the case of yates, cardenas, and holden ill blame that one on the team mechanics - they probably didn't tell the riders what they had done.
 
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glad they got caught; although in the case of yates, cardenas, and holden ill blame that one on the team mechanics - they probably didn't tell the riders what they had done.
Probably but an extra 150cc isn't something a racer's not going to notice. And they sure as heck would have noticed during qualifying.
 

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glad they got caught; although in the case of yates, cardenas, and holden ill blame that one on the team mechanics - they probably didn't tell the riders what they had done.
Dude, you'd notice that difference esp if you were constantly in the power band. Plus, if they were good racers, they'd pull off immediately and say "WTF, mechanic dude?!" Good racers play by the rules and win by the rules.
 

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Don't be naive guys, AMA is one of the most corrupt series out there. Bens Spies Superstock bike dynos at over 190hp and everybody knows it an nobody does anything about it.
 

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Yates Holden and Cardenas weren't the ones with the GSXR 750 parts.

"In post-race technical inspection, the motorcycles of Cardenas, Holden and Yates were found to have illegal modifications to the crankcase breather tube(s)."

So it is VERY likely they had no idea because that isn't the kind of thing anyoen other than a tech would be able to distinguish.
 

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Don't be naive guys, AMA is one of the most corrupt series out there. Bens Spies Superstock bike dynos at over 190hp and everybody knows it an nobody does anything about it.
Do you really think AMA would knowingly allow cheating? Highly unlikely...ESPECIALLY if everyone knew about it.
 

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If you aren't cheating you aren't trying hard enough and its only cheating if you get caught
 

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Yeah, and I am pretty sure Superstock bikes all dyno around 170 HP. If Spies had a 20 HP advantage, he would have lapped the field in every race.
 

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Do you really think AMA would knowingly allow cheating? Highly unlikely...ESPECIALLY if everyone knew about it.
Dude, it has been a joke for about three months about spies "superstock" bike dynoing at over 190hp (Some rumors put it as high as 197, that is pretty "Super" for stock)amongst inside people that work and race in AMA, and it has spread, till even Greg White said that he was riding a 190hp superstock bike (spies's) this weekend on national television.

And go back to the traction control ********! Anybody that went to a race and it wasn't their first race, could hear the GSXR of Mladin, Spies, Yates stuttering on the exits of corners, indicating that traction control was cutting the ignition (or maybe fuel) to prevent wheel spin. That was going on for nearly a year before the AMA addressed it.

They only go after things when it becomes super obvious and the everyday Joe starts to become clued in on it, hence the crackdown this weekend. Conviently, Spies 190hp "Thuperduperstock" wasn't on the track.....
 

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Yeah, and I am pretty sure Superstock bikes all dyno around 170 HP. If Spies had a 20 HP advantage, he would have lapped the field in every race.
But wait... he does lap people regularly in races.
 

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Probably but an extra 150cc isn't something a racer's not going to notice. And they sure as heck would have noticed during qualifying.
re-read my post, i wasn't talking about those two.
 
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