Interesting. I thought Honda did a great job. Finishing up 2nd and 3rd in their first race was pretty huge. Mladins team had a pit strategy that proved to be the best, and gave him what he needed to finish on top. Don't think Honda should be embarrased at all. Their rookie finished second in one of the toughest AMA races, and their veteran was directly next to him.
***AMA Superbike thoughts after Daytona 200.
Five manufacturers should be embarassed along with AMA.
Yamaha and Kawi - Excited about their supersport and superstock bikes, but they do not participate in the biggest race of the year.
Suzuki - Embarrassed by the most retarted showing of a rider to date
Honda - All new Gixxer killer loses to a Gixxer and has one bike go to poop.
Ducati - Even with factory help, they can't complete 200 miles.
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This was a very depressing race for me. I was excited to see some competition and good racing. Boy, am I glad I watched the 600s also.
Yamaha and Kawi - Excited about their supersport and superstock bikes, but they do not participate in the biggest race of the year.
Suzuki - Embarrassed by the most retarted showing of a rider to date
Honda - All new Gixxer killer loses to a Gixxer and has one bike go to poop.
Ducati - Even with factory help, they can't complete 200 miles.
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This was a very depressing race for me. I was excited to see some competition and good racing. Boy, am I glad I watched the 600s also.
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Six factory bikes. One wrecks, one blows up, and one falls apart. That leaves three, Three podium spots for three factory riders. Anything less would be a tragedy, not embarassment.Don't think Honda should be embarrased at all. Their rookie finished second in one of the toughest AMA races, and their veteran was directly next to him.
Honda's bikes was designed to beat the GSXr. It even has Advantages on the GSXr. At least the RC51 could beat the Gixxer at Daytona.
hondaf4iguy said:Six factory bikes. One wrecks, one blows up, and one falls apart. That leaves three, Three podium spots for three factory riders. Anything less would be a tragedy, not embarassment.Don't think Honda should be embarrased at all. Their rookie finished second in one of the toughest AMA races, and their veteran was directly next to him.
Honda's bikes was designed to beat the GSXr. It even has Advantages on the GSXr. At least the RC51 could beat the Gixxer at Daytona.
You also have to think that the RC did beat the GSXr at Daytona since they had a few years of development on the RC then they had with the GSXR the first year it came to Daytona. The best rider today for honda was on a bike that had issues, none of us know what it was so you cant blame that on "" The bike"" some part of the whole thing failed one individual part. BB would have won the race im sure had he not had some type of mechanical issues. The series that should be looked at as a shoe in is the FX i mean Honda is the only Factory team there if they dont win every race its going to be sad.
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hondaf4iguy said:Suzuki - Embarrassed by the most retarted showing of a rider to date
I am still just utterly disgusted at this issue! And to think, I WAS a fan of his! The little guy should have "decked" him!
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Heres a link for anyone that didnt see it.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dan.vitale/video/fightclub.mpg
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/dan.vitale/video/fightclub.mpg
Agreed!pastpob said:hondaf4iguy said:Suzuki - Embarrassed by the most retarted showing of a rider to date
I am still just utterly disgusted at this issue! And to think, I WAS a fan of his! The little guy should have "decked" him!
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YellowRR, honda is responsible for the whole bike. If a .05 cent part fails, the the bike doesn't finish. It is embarrassing that a Ducati lasted longer. Who can you blame, a machanic? Honda is responsible for him too.
And for BBoz to be the best Honda rider... I would like to agree, but can you name the last race he won?
And for BBoz to be the best Honda rider... I would like to agree, but can you name the last race he won?
the race was almost entirely all pit strategy, save for the numnut maneuver by yates, and the broken engines of the bostrom bros.
the season is early and doesn't dictacte the rest of the championship or the caliber of the bikes thereof (see Mladin 03').
the season is early and doesn't dictacte the rest of the championship or the caliber of the bikes thereof (see Mladin 03').
ST, agreed. As a matter of fact it was boring when compared to Superstock and Supersport.
As much as it dictates nothing,it is the largest racing event for AMA.
As much as it dictates nothing,it is the largest racing event for AMA.
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Those other races were much more exciting without a doubt. All in all a good day of races though.hondaf4iguy said:As a matter of fact it was boring when compared to Superstock and Supersport.
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What I would like to know is, why didn't Honda do a 3 pit stop like Miguel did last year?
As for Jake Zemke, He did an awesome job holding Miguel off during the finish. If only he broke loose from Miguel earlier than he may have caught up to Miladin. Also, it seems like Miladin's single stage injectors worked fine! But we'll see how they do the rest of the season against Hondas Dual! :wink:
As for Jake Zemke, He did an awesome job holding Miguel off during the finish. If only he broke loose from Miguel earlier than he may have caught up to Miladin. Also, it seems like Miladin's single stage injectors worked fine! But we'll see how they do the rest of the season against Hondas Dual! :wink:
What about SS? I think it's a JOKE that Honda is in the FX class. The ONLY factory team.
I am a Honda fan...I did switch and buy an R6 to race (race only), but I still like the RR. I think they ought to be embarassed to win that Championship...How could Zemke or Duhamel NOT win it this year? I like both riders alot but I am sure they are NOT happy to be out there racing against a bunch (actually only 19 riders) of privateers. Big $$$ into a bike that went slower than the SS bike of last year...Thumbs down to Honda there!
I think the 1000RR will be a great bike this year. I hope to see either the Honda(s) or the Duc on top in the end!
I am a Honda fan...I did switch and buy an R6 to race (race only), but I still like the RR. I think they ought to be embarassed to win that Championship...How could Zemke or Duhamel NOT win it this year? I like both riders alot but I am sure they are NOT happy to be out there racing against a bunch (actually only 19 riders) of privateers. Big $$$ into a bike that went slower than the SS bike of last year...Thumbs down to Honda there!
I think the 1000RR will be a great bike this year. I hope to see either the Honda(s) or the Duc on top in the end!
I understand that it takes much more then having a fast bike to win @ Daytona and so it's ok that Honda didn't take the top spot, but where I am disappointed is the fact that the times Zemke and Duhamel were turning (on a faster bike) towards the end were slower then Mladin's. I expected them to close the 6 sec. gap in the last 12 laps, but instead the gap grew to 9+ secs.
Honda does need to get the hell out of FX class. I can't believe those FX bikes were slower then the SS bikes of last year, even though the lap times tell exactly that story.
hrvat2, the main reason for the lap times was fresh tires. Mladin was on better tires all day once his first pit stops rolled around. It sucked. I feel Honda should have used Zemke as a spy and had him pit with the zooks just incase they were on to something.
hondaf4iguy said:
And for BBoz to be the best Honda rider... I would like to agree, but can you name the last race he won?
Misano Race 2 - Brands Hatch Race 2, WSBK 2001 season, 5 straight very dominating wins on dunlops. :shock:
Maybe Mladin and his team sabotaged both bostrom bikes...haha...just a thought
ccwilli3 said:hondaf4iguy said:
And for BBoz to be the best Honda rider... I would like to agree, but can you name the last race he won?
Misano Race 2 - Brands Hatch Race 2, WSBK 2001 season, 5 straight very dominating wins on dunlops. :shock:
Unfortunately, that is well in the past now. His consistant but lackluster performance last year just doesn't give me the warm fuzzy Honda has the top rider in him. I thouhgt Ben would donimate last year. Hopefully with one year to refamiliarize himself with our track stateside he can dominate this year. However, hoping does little to help.
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I don't think you can blame Ducati for the bike failing. A rock punctured the oil cooler and oil was lost...The bike is mechanically sound. They just had some badluck.hondaf4iguy said:Five manufacturers should be embarassed along with AMA.
Honda - All new Gixxer killer loses to a Gixxer and has one bike go to poop.
Ducati - Even with factory help, they can't complete 200 miles.
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This was a very depressing race for me. I was excited to see some competition and good racing. Boy, am I glad I watched the 600s also.
Look at WSB...the Ducatis seem to be doing more than fine.
Anyways, either BBoz or EBoz had this race in the bag if it wasn't for the mechanical mishaps.
Yes, they were designed to beat the GSXRs, but the bike doesn't win races, remember? The rider does and a race strategy especially in a 200 mile race. Remember that BBoz was in the top spot for a many laps of the race, so the 1000RR is more than capable of beating the GSXR.Honda's bikes was designed to beat the GSXr. It even has Advantages on the GSXr. At least the RC51 could beat the Gixxer at Daytona.
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