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Yahoo Artice said:
But State Assemblywoman Noreen Evans, the budget committee chairwoman, said she wants lawmakers to consider raising revenue rather than cutting so deeply into state programs.
"I will look under every rock and every leaf so that we can make sure women and children are fed and their medical needs are taken care of," Evans said.
Basically: I will raise already too high taxes and drive out investment! That way, we will never get out of this hole! I ignore economic reality because it is painful, and seek instead to find the easy money!

Californians crack me up man...
 

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Basically: I will raise already too high taxes and drive out investment! That way, we will never get out of this hole! I ignore economic reality because it is painful, and seek instead to find the easy money!

Californians crack me up man...
She is a dumb tard Democrat, just like most other democrat that run this 3rd most powerful micro economy in the world in to bankrupcy. want somthing for nothing. makes me wonder if they democrat can even do some basic math. i mean what are they thinking... 1-1=2. i hate people like her with a passion. because they think, well lets just tax the hell out of the rich and those who works their ass off to support the other who dont work at all. talk about fairness. if i work my ass off, i better keep my earning.
 

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More cuts to education. Wonderful.

*sigh*

I'm ready to move out of state based on the ridiculous amount of education cuts in the past few years alone.
 

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Glad to see the welfare bums have to get off their asses now. The need to cut WIC too, lazy welfare moms getting groceries off of our dollar just so they can stay home and get fat and pop out more babies?! But I'm with Vandurin, this state has some of the worst public education schools. Why is it always the most important stuff that gets the first cuts?

Look at all the ghey advertising we as a state do on the most stupidest stuff? Click it or ticket? Come on! If you can't read the little read sign that comes on on your dash or hear the annoying ding your car makes when you drive w/o it on then maybe you deserve to fly out a window. Why in this day and age do we still have PSA commercials about retarded crap? Do you really need a radio add telling you about airplane turbulence? Or another one telling you to stay above the influence and not get high? Who the hell listens to this crap?

If the government stopped putting money into the gheyest things like this I'm sure we would save millions. I mean in these hard times do we really need graffiti clean up on the freeway? I hate it too but I'd rather a kid have a book and deal with some ugly crap on the freeway. But nope, I'm sure some politician has some lobbyist agenda paying him to say we need BS PSA's and chemicals to clean our walls and the list goes on. Give me an effin break
 

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We need to legalize marijuana, so much revenue would come from that.

I agree, too many people are abusing the welfare system. Its not fair for tax payers to support laziness. Having kids should be a decision based on your means to take care of them, people shouldnt rely on the government for paying the bills.

There are going to be mad protests and riots if this goes through. What will these people do when their aid is cut? Could get scary.
 

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We need to legalize marijuana, so much revenue would come from that.

I agree, too many people are abusing the welfare system. Its not fair for tax payers to support laziness. Having kids should be a decision based on your means to take care of them, people shouldnt rely on the government for paying the bills.

There are going to be mad protests and riots if this goes through. What will these people do when their aid is cut? Could get scary.

Exactly! But then some religious nut jobs always step in and tell us its their God given right on when to have kids and how many. And who ends up paying the bill? We do:cwm21:

I remember listening to Adam Carrola when he was till on the air arguing with some Welfare mom telling her to stop having kids she can't afford. She argued back that he couldn't tell her what to do when he replied " Yes I can bitch! I pay taxes" Exactly effen right. If you as a parent can not be responsible enough to bring forth a child into a healthy environment then yes us tax payers should be able to step in and say; " Hey, you have one kid you can't afford and I'll be damn if you have another"

We as a culture have been breading a lazy fat American and the sh1t needs to stop. There was a time when being a man and not being able to provide brought shame to yourself and your family. So you strived for your best. Instead we now reassure people that if you can't be father its ok, just let big government front the bill. I hope they do more cuts to welfare recipients. This retarded cycle needs to stop.


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More cuts to education. Wonderful.

*sigh*

I'm ready to move out of state based on the ridiculous amount of education cuts in the past few years alone.
Notice how they NEVER cut any of the redundant beurocratic UNION jobs !!! It's always Education and Police that get the first cuts.
 

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We as a culture have been breading a lazy fat American and the sh1t needs to stop. There was a time when being a man and not being able to provide brought shame to yourself and your family. So you strived for your best. Instead we now reassure people that if you can't be father its ok, just let big government front the bill. I hope they do more cuts to welfare recipients. This retarded cycle needs to stop.


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So true! Back in the day borrowing money was shameful; you saved money for what you needed, and paid in full for your sh*t. Now we are ENCOURAGED to borrow so we can get trapped in the prison of debt, once you are in its so hard to get out. People living beyond their means is what screwed up our financial system, but it is encouraged to make the bankers rich!

The whole system needs to change.
 

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Man, why do Americans keep doing this to themselves... Why is it always a "blue" vs "red" issue? You're playing into their game. F*ck blue/red... partisan politics needs to stop but you guys keep perpetrating the fact that one of the sides cares about you more than the other.

The fact is... both sides do the same thing in the end. Dems want to cash and carry, repubs want to put everything on credit. Either way, you get screwed over in the end.
 

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You guys make me so proud! I'm glad I'm not the only one who us totally fed up with this socialist big government crap!

Disco, If we legalize mary jane how can the government feed the private prison systems that we paid for? :roll:
 

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Man, why do you Americans keep doing this to themselves... Why is it always a "blue" vs "red" issue? You're playing into their game. F*ck blue/red... partisan politics needs to stop but you guys keep perpetrating the fact that one of the sides cares about you more than the other.

The fact is... both sides do the same thing in the end. Dems want to cash and carry, repubs want to put everything on credit. Either way, you get screwed over in the end.
Totally agree! I've been saying for years that it doesn't matter which political party is in power. It's the same $h!t over and over.

I think this last great hope of the Obama administration has proven to many Americans this simple fact. It's nothing more then a well orchestrated farce. Kinda like WWF but with more money involved.
 

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but the fact of the matter is " this is a blue VS red issue". lets look at the core issues here. democrates wants to raise taxes for everyone, they want to spend every dollar in their pocket including the money thats not in your pocket. they want to "protect" the people by writting laws that is against business, they want to "protect" the enviroment that end up driving most business away. while the republican is pro business, pro tax decrease, and less spending. in the current state, which one is more apporporate? people always bitching at Arnold saying he keeps on cutting budget and raise taxes, but who created this mess in the first place... did we all forget a guy name Gray Daves? He run the state to the rolling snowball of debt, he setup the laws to drive business away. guess what he is a democrat
 

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If republicans were in charge, people would find something about them to bitch about to, so I'm with pbeaul on this one, it's no longer a D vs. R thing.

The only people that say "It's our god given right to have children" are the people who have no REAL legit argument, so they place everything on their sky god. god given right? Grow up.

Disco - I'm assuming you're older than me, as I'm 24 I was brought up on the "buy now, pay later" thing. Except when I did borrow money I never struggled to pay it back. I say you must be older, because from what I can remember, in my life it's never been shameful to borrow money, and go into debt, it was just "normal living" and that's where I think a lot of people specifically in my generation are screwing up. I borrow, but I only borrow what I can afford to pay back. I don't get behind on payments, where as some people say "Oh it's only a $10 fee.." Then that snowballs into 2 or 3 months behind, and some, like my friend, just stop paying his bills, thinking "They'll just go away".... A large part of our problem in the general publics fault, for spending too much of what they don't have. (Not saying that govt. didn't play a large roll also) It's not the credit card companies fault that they trusted you (generalization, not anyone in particular) with a large amount of credit, you used it, then weren't able to pay it back, so they jacked up your interest rate.. and you cry. Too f*cking bad.

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And yes, WIC needs to end. I know a girl who was preg, was struggling with bill, so she quit her job so she could get on Badger Care and WIC, and whatever other assistance this ghey ass state offers to the lazy. Her = Pile of ****.
 

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It is their right to have children. However, they have no right to your money.

The problem I am seeing with the Blue vs. Red is that both are wrong.
The reds are morality pushing jerks. The blues are tax happy jerks.

It seems that all of you need to come to the new way of thinking: Libertarianism. It is a political philosophy centered around small government and low taxes. Does that sound appealing to you? It sure does to me.

Once you have seen the benefits of less gov't and taxes (just ask people that have moved from California to tax haven states), get on the wagon and start being involved. Bitching from the sidelines won't get you anywhere.
 
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