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If only the rest of the country would follow suit.

I split lanes here in New Orleans. I've only been stopped once or twice for it over the last 10 years. I only do it at red lights, however. I don't feel safe doing it over, say 30 mph.
 

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I don't have much hope that this will reduce problems.

Iv'e seen some real dummies splitting at 70+ mph lately......

And on the way home today, a GENIUS on a Kawi Versys (650cc?) was tailgating a CHP SUV as the CHP LEO was blasting to a call....Brilliant!

PS CHP's standard for safe splitting is a huge gray area........Officer discretion seems to be the guideline....
 

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Lane splitting is officially legal as of Jan 1st. Take a look through the law to understand what you can and can't do.

News: New 2017 law aims to clarify motorcycle lane-splitting rules - KSBY.com | San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara Area News

Doing a quick search I can't find anywhere that spells out the law verbatim though. I'll keep an eye out for my own curiosity but if anyone else comes across it, please add it in a reply.



As far as I have been told it is not illegal there are just some new rules that apply to speed and when you can do it. From what I was told you can not split anymore if the traffic is flowing at the speed limit and that if there is traffic that is going less than the speed limit you can only split an a maximum of 35mph. Thant is just what I was told dont know the actual new law to an exact T.
 

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PS CHP's standard for safe splitting is a huge gray area........Officer discretion seems to be the guideline....
How is this any different then how its been for many years? I've seen bikes following a motorcycle cop in lines as they cut lanes in southern cali freeways numerous times among other things. Its never been illegal, although its never been actually legal either.
 

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How is this any different then how its been for many years? I've seen bikes following a motorcycle cop in lines as they cut lanes in southern cali freeways numerous times among other things. Its never been illegal, although its never been actually legal either.
Exactly.....they've really not changed anything.
Surprising?
 

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So from what I could gather so far, California just made it legal with the following bill:

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160AB51

What it suggests is for the CHP to develop the guidelines with input from a variety of sources. So there's not yet a clear definition for legal splitting but expect a lot of fuss over the rules as the CHP starts to hash them out. Hell, even from other riders. I see no shortage of motorcyclists vehemently opposing splitting.
 

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what matters is the cops don't care. if they pulled you over for it and the law isn't well defined, then they probably realize that writing a ticket is probably a waste of time because you'll be able to fight it using the general definition of the law.
 

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What I'm trying to get across is that CA seems to be taking steps for taking that kind of ambiguity out. The bill leaves it up to CHP to define the exact rules for legal splitting.
 

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That seems to happen when the notion of personal responsibility gets shot. People start to look at authorities to guide them when said people can't be bothered to behave in a reasonable manner.

That said, gray areas are annoying and tedious when it comes to making a judgement. I deal with attorneys and lawsuits through my work and it's a huge drain on resources to try to navigate the ambiguous laws when the use of the same resources and efforts are better suited elsewhere.

Take splitting as an example. As of now it's officially legal in CA but the discretion to pull someone over or not relies entirely on the officer. You start to get into a question of what specifically the officer decided was unsafe and unlawful and whether that's a realistic expectation. Bound that to say, you can only split below 50 mph at a max speed difference of 20 mph, and the whole ordeal becomes much more cut and dry.
 
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