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I have never been one to watch or even care about politics, but after flipping through the channels tonight not wanting to watch something completely idiotic, like the jersey shore, I thought hey look a debate why not watch something that has relevance. The Arizona Republican Debate was on, but after a little while of watching it i noticed something peculiar. Almost all the question where pointed towards or started with Mit Romney, yes they would all get a chance to argue about the issue but mostly the conversation kept from incorporating and or pretty much cut off Ron Paul from speaking ...leaving him in the shadows... Even though the few times he did get the chance to say something he made the most sense and did not use political jargon to cloud the matter or side step the question. At the end of the debate i could tell something was a little off, this video only supports my suspicions

Watch the debate, what do you think ? or am i just silly for trying to even watch politics.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/era8KBFSmHU

And this also surprised me, something balanced and fair on fox??? thats different, something must be really wrong

http://www.youtube.com/embed/fOaCemmsnNk
 

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I am Happy that you noticed something is /was a "little off" with those meatballs

those guys are corporate puppets....with the exception of Ron Paul.

they have NEVER done a real days work, or had the honor of living as a common man.

They all became rich through insider shady deals....and look at us as a lower form of life which is meant for them to exploit as they see fit.

Fox will never be "fair and balanced" ....always will be slanted and deceitful.

Keep thinking and watching...the more you see the angrier you will get!
 

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Ron Paul FTW.....

Don't believe all the hype about foreign policies with RP. We aren't going to have to worry about our foreign policies if we owe China a couple Trillion dollars and the U.S is bankrupt. We are going to be in the same situation as Greece is right now. This is why the government is working so hard with other countries to see if everyone can get along. It's not going to happen and Ron Paul knows this along with pretty much everyone that will vote for him. The U.S government needs to stop worry about about "stupid" things and worry about fixing the spending problem it has right now. Every question should be "cut,balance,cap" and how do they plan to do it. Without these 3 things we are going to be in the same situation as all the other countries. The government spends more money than they take in. No "business" "country" can function on this plan, something has to give. They take more of our money or we take back our country. RON PAUL WILL GIVE US BACK OUR COUNTRY!!!!!!
 

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Yes, Fox does have a bias in some of it's programming, but not nearly as bad as the other major networks.

88% of the contributions made by ABC, CBS and NBC employees went to Democratic candidates:

http://dailycaller.com/2010/08/28/obama-democrats-got-88-percent-of-2008-contributions-by-tv-network-execs-writers-reporters/

And if your wondering why Ron Paul didn't get a lot of the questions, it is because he is not a front runner in the campaign (And he's a friggin nut case) They always in the debates place the front runners in the center of the stage and they get the bulk of the questions.

And Tripage, America is already worse off than Greece

Chart: 'America’s Per Capita Government Debt Worse Than Greece'

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/chart-america-s-capita-government-debt-worse-greece_631797.html
 

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Does anyone else other than me think that Ron Paul smoked himself to borderline retarded?

I agree with 90% + of his positions, but I don't think he's the guy to make it happen.
 

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They only give RP very limited time bc they do not want the people to know that he is the man for the job. They put these basically "sales men" in front of a camera to try to pursuade the American people they are the man for the job. They promise all these great things, just like Obama, and dont do sh*t. Not sure if they are the ones to blame tho.... The people with all the money basically run our country, not Obama. People such as the Rothchilds who have made trillions over the past 3 centuries.. They are the leaders of our financial/political affairs...
 

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I watched many of the early debates and found this to be prevalent in all of them. Ron Paul is always put on the backburner, and you'll often find on Fox and the other mainstream media sources he isn't portrayed in a fair light. They like to make him look loony, call him an isolationist, etc.
 

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I have never been one to watch or even care about politics, but after flipping through the channels tonight not wanting to watch something completely idiotic, like the jersey shore, I thought hey look a debate why not watch something that has relevance. The Arizona Republican Debate was on, but after a little while of watching it i noticed something peculiar. Almost all the question where pointed towards or started with Mit Romney, yes they would all get a chance to argue about the issue but mostly the conversation kept from incorporating and or pretty much cut off Ron Paul from speaking ...leaving him in the shadows... Even though the few times he did get the chance to say something he made the most sense and did not use political jargon to cloud the matter or side step the question. At the end of the debate i could tell something was a little off, this video only supports my suspicions

Watch the debate, what do you think ? or am i just silly for trying to even watch politics.


And this also surprised me, something balanced and fair on fox??? thats different, something must be really wrong

fix that for you
 

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Does anyone else other than me think that Ron Paul smoked himself to borderline retarded?

I agree with 90% + of his positions, but I don't think he's the guy to make it happen.
I do know that the U.S is in route to the same problems however the media is making it out that we are recovering. If we are recovering and we are becoming self sufficient in the energy resources area "OIL" then why is gas so high? If we are not needing all the oil we have and we are now selling oil to other countries why are we paying more at the pump than we ever have?

Stop lying and tell the truth, that is all I want. I am not stupid and I do not deserve to be lied to. I see right through their car salesman slogans. Elect me and I will make everything right. Everyone will get a job "government doesn't control this, business's do" Everyone will have SS/medicare/ these organizations are in the negative every year because there are not enough people working to keep up with those that are taking. Stop taking our money and spending it on other crap and making us think you are saving it. Government doesn't know what the word save means. I want a president that speaks the truth no matter how crazy it sounds. I don't want a president that blows smoke up everyone's A$$ and tells them everything if fine.
 

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Does anyone else other than me think that Ron Paul smoked himself to borderline retarded?

I agree with 90% + of his positions, but I don't think he's the guy to make it happen.
yea... you say he is a complete nut case then you agree with 90% of his positions. :retard:

explain.



i look for people like you to discuss RP with. TBH

why? because i can talk all day with people who support RP but what good does that do? my point of interest is finding people who think
"ron paul is isolationist"
"ron paul is racist"
"ron paul is anti- isreal"
"ron paul is crazy"

these topics are so easily refuted and it amazes me that people still buy into these ideas.


so please explain, what is it exactly that makes RP crazy and a nut job?

personally i feel he is the ONLY guy up there who makes a lick of sense, he is the only guy who has been in office and re-elected to office for the longest period of time, he is the only guy who would strictly follow the rule of law defined by the constitution he is the only guy who has served his country by that i mean he is a veteran, and he is a highly educated medical doctor and has a very strong background in the principals of sound economics.


so please explain the issues that RP stands on that you dissagree wtih.
i would enjoy the chance to persuade you another way.
 

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I do know that the U.S is in route to the same problems however the media is making it out that we are recovering. If we are recovering and we are becoming self sufficient in the energy resources area "OIL" then why is gas so high? If we are not needing all the oil we have and we are now selling oil to other countries why are we paying more at the pump than we ever have?

Stop lying and tell the truth, that is all I want. I am not stupid and I do not deserve to be lied to. I see right through their car salesman slogans. Elect me and I will make everything right. Everyone will get a job "government doesn't control this, business's do" Everyone will have SS/medicare/ these organizations are in the negative every year because there are not enough people working to keep up with those that are taking. Stop taking our money and spending it on other crap and making us think you are saving it. Government doesn't know what the word save means. I want a president that speaks the truth no matter how crazy it sounds. I don't want a president that blows smoke up everyone's A$$ and tells them everything if fine.
you know one reason, IMO, my the prices of oil are going up has to affected by the fact that the value of the dollar is going down. since opec still prices oil is USD the market has to adjust for inflation.
so anytime we authorize deficit spending, printing and borrowing money prices of everything will increase.

heard an example one time that the price of goods never really increases just because of time. example. in ancient Rome you could get a pair of good sandals, a leather belt and a tunic or whatever they call what they wore(nice version) for a 1 oz gold coin. consider the price of an oz of gold today, for one oz gold coin you can still get a nice pair of shoes a suit and a belt and a tie... the cost of services didn't go up- the value of our currency is drastically decreasing.

i know we agree on the subject of were our country seems to be headed, and it is very scary.

while people rabble over health care and which religious groups should/shouln't pay for birth control, and while people rabble over frivolous stuff like Limbaugh calling that girl a slut, it only distracts us from the real issues and the real risks our country faces.

ron paul is one of the only guys in politics today that seems to address the real issues, and he has been doing so for 30 years.
 

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Does anyone else other than me think that Ron Paul smoked himself to borderline retarded?

I agree with 90% + of his positions, but I don't think he's the guy to make it happen.
also- smoked himself retarded? :retard: c'mon dude, honestly sounds like you are just putting words together to try and make a sentence but what you have come up with does not in any shape or form reflect the man you attempted to describe...

anxiously waiting for you response. :drunk:
 
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