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Still trying to figure the site out. I have an issue with the bike. Was going to find th appropriate thread but nothing seems to match.
2006 cbr 600rr
Bike started and rode perfect
Rode 17 miles
Bike shut off and lost all power Battery was dead and would not pop start
Put new battery in and the bike only cranked
all lights and dash worked
Replaced stator and rectifier Swapped all relays around.
Still no start.
Fuel pump does not prime with key. Does prime when hardwired
Kill switch is on.
Starter cranks.
When kill switch is off starter doesn’t crank.
Not a chip key
ignition only has two wires. Being 2006 USA model
Checked for melted connections all looks good.
Any help I am totally lost
 

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Still trying to figure the site out. I have an issue with the bike. Was going to find th appropriate thread but nothing seems to match.
2006 cbr 600rr
Bike started and rode perfect
Rode 17 miles
Bike shut off and lost all power Battery was dead and would not pop start
Put new battery in and the bike only cranked
all lights and dash worked
Replaced stator and rectifier Swapped all relays around.
Still no start.
Fuel pump does not prime with key. Does prime when hardwired
Kill switch is on.
Starter cranks.
When kill switch is off starter doesn’t crank.
Not a chip key
ignition only has two wires. Being 2006 USA model
Checked for melted connections all looks good.
Any help I am totally lost
Any help??? Well I am here for you! LOL

Google zener diode (don't think 2006 has one - so just make sure it doesn't). Check all fuses. Swap your relays around. Try to bump start the bike in 2nd gear. Check ground connections, clean and re-attach.

Read this thread http://www.600rr.net/vb/62-troubleshooting/474561-how-troubleshoot-bike-wont-start.html
 

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Thanks for the help! No zener already checked. Will not bump start. I swapped the relays around but I may be leaning towards something bigger. I now realize the blinkers do not flash. So something major happened when the bike died... at least that’s what I’m assuming. Hope not.
 

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I know on my 2009 the wire that goes to the fuel pump was not connecting properly and would give me intermittent trouble after cleaning out my gas tank. I in fact just got stuck riding around town checking for any 'further' problems with the bike and ended up coming to a complete stop as if the engine cut off button was pushed..... I looked around for some long object to test my suspicion as the bike is basically new. ... There I was on the side of the road sticking a palm frawn in the tank to 'push' on the faulty wiring (It literally is eaten away by ethanol I guess). Started up and ran like a champ.
 

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if you shorted the black/black white and the engine stop relay didn't click, it's the BAS that's holding it out.


stop just replacing stuff you're just wasting your money
 

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Fuel pump works when tested
Killswitch is good
Ignition is good
Starter is good
Spark is good
Relays are good
Kickstand switch is good
New stator and rectifier
New battery
Power to all relays EXCEPT FUEL PUMP.
 

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keep it to one thread you are making this worse for everyone


the coil side of the relay should have a black/white and a brown/black, ground the brown black. if the fuel pump runs, try to start the bike. if it starts, try a known good ECU.
 

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keep it to one thread you are making this worse for everyone


the coil side of the relay should have a black/white and a brown/black, kiground the brown black. if the fuel pump runs, try to start the bike. if it starts, try a known good ECU.
Thanks man! I’ll try that tonight. Sorry for the confusion just trying to get it out there didn’t know who was responding to it, where. But much appreciated
 

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My fuel pump 'worked when tested' as well but when it was put back in the tank (worked again when tested) then with gas it somehow shorted out the questionable/failing contacts. I pulled it out a dozen times tested it a dozen more and when I put it in the bike with fuel it would not work right off the bat or drop out some time later like someone pushed a kill switch..

The blue black connections are corroded or micro fractured but the fuel pump itself is is in perfectly good working order. If you get the pump to prime in the tank it will start. Jab the bugger with a stick to see if what I was saying 'exposes the problem' as that is an easy enough test to try... Plus it's free n easy.
 

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"jab it with a stick"

sage advice.




if the fuel pump relay isn't pulling, the problem lies in the control circuit.


i told you how to test that circuit. if it works, try a known good ecu as i stated.
 

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My fuel pump 'worked when tested' as well but when it was put back in the tank (worked again when tested) then with gas it somehow shorted out the questionable/failing contiacts. I pulled it out a dozen times tested it a dozen more and when I put it in the bike with fuel it would not work right off the bat or drop out some time later like someone pushed a kill switch..

The blue black connections are corroded or micro fractured but the fuel pump itself is is in perfectly good working order. If you get the pump to prime in the tank it will start. Jab the bugger with a stick to see if what I was saying 'exposes the problem' as that is an easy enough test to try... Plus it's free n easy.

The pump is still in the tank with a full tank of gas. The problem is way before there do to the fact that there is no power going to the relay. I do appreciate your advice tho! I’m going to see if what the other gentleman recommended works if so I’ve got an ECU on stand by for order
 

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You need to do more testing.


Stop trying to purchase your way out of the problem it could be as simple as a corroded pin
 

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You need to do more testing.


Stop trying to purchase your way out of the problem it could be as simple as a corroded pin

Well sorry man. The battery died while riding. So I ordered the stator and rectifier before the bike even made it home. Put those in two days later and then realized it wasn’t the issue. My bad. I havnt purchased anything else. I have gotten to the ground box and that looks fine. I disconnected and reconnected every plug. Everything appears as it should. But you said it could be an Ecu but now your saying it could be a corroded pin... i appreciate your help. But don’t assume I havnt tried everything I personally knew before coming on line and making an idiot of myself.
 

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Bike has 33k miles on it anything I replace isn’t going to hurt it. And throwing a few $50 at a bike that my wife rides gives me a little more satisfaction. So fixing wear parts in the process to help eliminate. I’m ok with that. My wife is 5 months pregnant and she just wanted to ride once this year before she got to uncomfortable that’s why I am on a time crunch and came on here. Like I said though. I appreciate any and all help. I don’t claim to know it all. Trying my best
 
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