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So this is what I am working with vs. HRC Electrical ECM/Set;

- OEM Wiring Harness
- OEM ECU
- Dynojet Power Commander (picked up for free)
- Dynojet Ignition Module (picked up for free)
- Translogic Micro Dash F2 (picked up for free)
- Woodcraft Ignition Delete System
 

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hope you like cutting wires... haha


also the ecu isn't programmed to monitor any of that ******** you're on about (clutch switch, kickstand switch, pair valve, etc). you'll need to emulate the exhaust servo motor to keep a code away, as well as the HESD. but the bike couldn't care less about the rest.
 

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hope you like cutting wires... haha


also the ecu isn't programmed to monitor any of that ******** you're on about (clutch switch, kickstand switch, pair valve, etc). you'll need to emulate the exhaust servo motor to keep a code away, as well as the HESD. but the bike couldn't care less about the rest.
Wibbly, thanks, man!! I will probably keep the HESD until I pick up an GPR V4. I also just picked up an Servo Buddy for the Servo.

Your input helps a lot! I wasn't too sure if the ECM monitored that crap. So far, I have it pulled apart, labeled. As I was unwrapping the harness, I kinda "tacked" it in place to maintain the OEM wiring structure.

My plan right now is to trace the connectors/wires that I don't want and unplug them from all from the harness...
 

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So, some of the items I was able to remove from the wiring harness.

- Right/Left turn signals,
- Headlights, Low/High/Position,
- Clutch Switch,
- Horn,
- Fan Motor,
- Sidestand Switch,
- Rear Left/Right Turn Signal,
- Rear Brake/Tail/License Light,
- Rear Brake Light Switch,
- Pair Control Solenoid Valve,
- Front Brake Light Switch,
- Ignition Switch/Key.

Wow, what an absolute headache! I'm expecting an migraine if the bike will not run after this modification. Hahahaha. If I will be throwing on a Powercommander... I am not really sure if it would be worth it. HRC ECU and Wiring harness does sound tempting right about now...
 

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be careful. the headlight circuit is what powers the starter relay. also without the kickstand switch the ignition is locked out when the bike is in gear. you'll have to properly wire around those interlocks for the bike to actually work
 

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the kickstand is as simple as just grounding the pin on the ECU it connects to. the start button you can trigger from the ignition circuit instead of the headlight circuit.

you'll figure it out none of this is remotely difficult. just time consuming.
 

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there's a thread OTF from 3-4 years ago about a gent who changed the oil in his HESD, and it seemed to make the damper work as new...worth searching up?

Also, if you can get connectors or preserve OE ones.....if you really want something perfect with the WH and electrical systems, would it be simpler to build a custom wiring harness......and at this point what's the cost of an HRC harness....and add the wiring you want?
 

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be careful. the headlight circuit is what powers the starter relay. also without the kickstand switch the ignition is locked out when the bike is in gear. you'll have to properly wire around those interlocks for the bike to actually work
the kickstand is as simple as just grounding the pin on the ECU it connects to. the start button you can trigger from the ignition circuit instead of the headlight circuit.

you'll figure it out none of this is remotely difficult. just time consuming.
there's a thread OTF from 3-4 years ago about a gent who changed the oil in his HESD, and it seemed to make the damper work as new...worth searching up?

Also, if you can get connectors or preserve OE ones.....if you really want something perfect with the WH and electrical systems, would it be simpler to build a custom wiring harness......and at this point what's the cost of an HRC harness....and add the wiring you want?
Thank you for the input guys! It seems like the kickstand splices into the clutch switch and into the ECM and then just grounds out. To start, I am running the ignition switch and Woodcraft system. I have never had an problem with the HESD... I just think it would be pretty fun to manually make adjustments just like the forks and shock... which are due for a rebuild.

Only thing that sucks is I am leaving for a week and my oil/coolant doesn't come in 'til Tuesday! Maybe I can have the Mrs. fill her up and try to crank her over! HA! Gonna be a long week!!!
 

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The kickstand switch works in conjunction with the clutch switch to bypass the neutral switch for starting.

The ecu has two ground inputs, one from the neutral switch and one from the kickstand switch.

One of these two must be true to ground for the ignition to operate. So if you're not in neutral, you must have the sidestand up for ignition operation.


It's easy to bypass you just need to know what you're doing
 

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So, I picked up a used Motoholders Fairing stay and air intake...

The size and weight difference is insane! Just holding it up, I thought it was going to break! It looks so clean and compact! I am very happy with the weight and size difference... for around $150.

Got the OEM dash and wiring harness mounted up. Looking to plug in a Dynojet PC III and ignition module to mess around with... but may purchase an HRC electrical loom and ECU.
 

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Looking into a subframe...

I normally ride the tank extremely close and I hate how I have over a half a foot gap between myself and the tail section.

Really like the Motoholders subframe and it is super light and a beauty to hold and look at... but costs some $$$. Hahaha

I started and I am going to test out a subframe I am working with and continuing to soften or harden as needed before I purchase one. Plus, I like to make it "mine" rather than buying and bolting it on. Main differences I see with builds. Guys either have the money to spend and bolt on stuff and call it "builds" or fabricate their own...I am just trying to have fun and find the middle of those two groups hahaha
 

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to be fair to the "builders" you're hating on. it's not like people can build their own brakes, suspension etc. there are plenty of people who have done a ton of work to their bikes (albeit, with parts already manufactured), what should they call it? their bike assembly project? i don't see any issue with the term build if you are pulling the bike down to nearly bare bones, then reassembling using carefully chosen and sourced parts.
 

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to be fair to the "builders" you're hating on. it's not like people can build their own brakes, suspension etc. there are plenty of people who have done a ton of work to their bikes (albeit, with parts already manufactured), what should they call it? their bike assembly project? i don't see any issue with the term build if you are pulling the bike down to nearly bare bones, then reassembling using carefully chosen and sourced parts.
"Hating on", okay. I guess I am hating on myself too. Why so defensive, Wibbly? Was just stating that guys either buy or fabricate their own parts, as I do the same. Hahaha Guess now a days, regardless of age, we have to draw out and explain everything so guys don't get offended...
 

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i'm not offended. i just get a chuckle out of people who criticize other people's work. also i'm not being defensive, all my projects are well documented, you're welcome to have a look if you can be bothered. i don't need to defend myself in other people's threads, i post my own and leave it.


lots of guys like you love to call out other people for their projects as though they're lesser. it's not a contest man just do your own thing.
 

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i'm not offended. i just get a chuckle out of people who criticize other people's work. also i'm not being defensive, all my projects are well documented, you're welcome to have a look if you can be bothered. i don't need to defend myself in other people's threads, i post my own and leave it.


lots of guys like you love to call out other people for their projects as though they're lesser. it's not a contest man just do your own thing.

My gosh, man... nobody is "criticizing", "calling out", thinking others are "lesser". It's just a statement that guys either fabricate, buy and bolt on or both, builds, projects, what ever we call it. We are all on here for the "bike porn" and intresets/topics of the 600RR.

Man, you are like a figure on the HOA Board... nitpicking everyone's stuff, turning it around to get seld satisfaction. *All Hail, Wibbly!* Relax, it's just a forum...
 

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not really. i'm just here to point people in the right direction, as you've probably noticed in this thread as well. i sold my 600rr years ago but there's so little good information given on the boards that i stuck around. you'll notice i almost NEVER post about my stuff. i don't brag about it, i don't bring it up constantly, and i don't talk at length about any of the stuff i've done because i'm NOT a blow hard.


you are just poo pooing people and saying their bikes are "builds" while yours isn't. it's ********. i'm just calling it how i see it, if you don't like it i guess that's your problem?
 

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Guys, sorry for the latest posts/comments. I love being on this site, following, seeing and reading your posts. Please, don't take offense of what was previously stated by meself. We all buy and build our own projects with all the frustrations and satisfaction that comes with it. I try to stay professional but sometimes we all get annoyed and have to vent. If you guys do take offense, just remember... we are massaging. It's difficult to show emotions or expressions. If a lot of guys do not like my posts, just say so and I'll remove the "HRC KITS" topic from the site.
 

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Finally making it back to "The States", it has been too long not being able to read and enjoy all of your guys topics and posts!! ? With this COVID-19 affect/effect spreading across this world, I do hope and pray that everyone comes out the best and they can recover from it. It is truely unaforturnate the lives and lifestyles that have changed. Everyone is finding their ways to cope with this "quarantine" but I call it a "restricted movement" because for myself and the friends, families we all know, have been graceful/lucky enough not to be a carrier. I do hope you and your families are the same and can continue to enjoy and bring a positive outlook. Parts of coping, we are fortunate enough to be home, continue work, family is taking car of... and enjoying a late night passion and love for a hobby. I do hope, you or anybody reading this, brings the same and that you are "listening & wrenching a long!" ...
 

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Planning on doing some front end work. Putting somewhat newer technology into this old kit. Making it's way in...

NOK/K-Tech fork dust seals,
NOK/K-Tech fork oil seals,
NOK/K-Tech fork guide bushings,
NOK/K-Tech fork slider bushings,
Öhlins FGK 204 Cartridge Kit,
Öhlins HO 469 TTXGP rear shock,
Bitubo Adjuster Closer Caps
 

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Today, got in some new;
NOK/K-Tech fork dust seals,
NOK/K-Tech fork oil seals,
NOK/K-Tech fork guide bushings and
NOK/K-Tech fork slider bushings.

I know K-Tech uses NOK and repackages them. They sell they a little bit more but with a discount and free shipping... OrientExpress was a good deal. Originals shown a lot of wear and caused some sticktion problems. Everything always looks so nice when new!!!
 

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