A-start gloves, FUCING AWESOME! i had to stear my body with my hands on the ground at a few points when i tried to get my ass off the ground. I had Icon shin/knee guards and a icon back and chest protector. The jacket is a technic one.
Io-Bot said:As it comes down it goes into a small tank slapper for about .2 seconds and from there it escalates to that Isle of man TT tank slapper that we all have seen, I rode that out for about 1/4 mile at 140 if not faster. Did everything i could to try and get on the gas or lean back and so on... but it was so violent and fast i couldnt do **** but hang on and let it do its thing.
Guys, I have to tell you that a steering damper would not have prevented this. He made a mistake and then compounded the problem by fighting the bike. A steering damper will dampen a tank slapper. Not prevent them. Only you can prevent a tank slapper by not making mistakes. If you get into a tank slapper relax your grip and the bike will settle itself. Giving it more gas is a gamble that doesn't always pay off.Io-Bot said:also, i was wide open throughout the tank slapper (or more or less).
fubar929 said:I have a number of beefs with the Scotts damper. Keep in mind that I bought two or three of them and used them over a period of 2-3 years on 2-3 different bikes. I've also posted about this extensively in the past, but here's the summary:
1) It's difficult to get the settings correct. The only way you know if it will stop a tankslapper is to get a full-blown tankslapper! If you've guessed wrong about the settings...
2) It's slow to react to headshake, which I attribute mostly to the dual-circuit design. I had a number of tankslappers with the Scotts installed. They'd always start out with the bars moving from side-to-side at a moderate pace and quickly progress to the point where the bars where flailing back-and-forth out-of-control. There was a noticable lag before the high-speed damping circuit would kick-in and start to dampen the movement. Invariably, I'd end up getting control of the bike back just as I was leaving the pavement at a high rate of speed.
The nice thing about rod-style, and to some extent the GPR rotary, is that they're always damping steering movement. In effect, they stop headshake/wobbles before they turn into a tankslapper. The Scotts had a tendency to let the wobble turn into a tankslapper, and only then would it start damping it out. I eventually found settings that seemed to work pretty well, but by then I'd given up on the product...
True, hell i hope my gear story alone helps people get stuff, i think its well worth teh $70 for the shin/knee guards and the $90 for the back and chest protector. I have gotten a lot of people to buy those things already.NewRedRider said:Good try CV. But this guy appears to be riding very hard and aggresive on the track. Not quite the same as your normal street rider and certianly not a fair comparison for this discussion. Tanks slappers should be a once in a blue moon event. Why buy something to mask a mistake? I believe we should educate riders on the correct way to handle one, if it ever happens to them. Not buy something to cover up a mistake that they don't know how to adjust and will probably make it steer worse.
But I digress. Io-Bot, stop racing on the streets! You are one lucky SOB to survive that. I hope you learned a valuable lesson and set a good example for everyone else.
Well obviously he is if he keeps getting tank slappers! :icon_lol:cvlighthouse said:Why buy something to mask a mistake?
I ask you this,
Why would the 07 600rr come with one stock if it were to mask a mistake?
What a better person to explain how a steering damper works than a guy who has done 119 trackdays this year. I'd take his word for it. He has them more frequent than the average joe just means that they save his arse that much more. Try and tell him he is masking a mistake...
Can we please have another rear brake discussion here?NewRedRider said:..We might as well agree to disagree. ...
IMO, street riders are better off spending their money on education, gear, and track days to gain experience then a bling factor that gives them false hope.
LMAO!Io-Bot said:i was more pissed off about my cellphone sliding up to me by itself after i had stopped