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Never really thought of it the way he put it my job is driving so gas prices really hurt me. But will romney being in office lower the prices? And if so for how long 6 months? a year? The country definitely needs a change for the better. People abuse the help they are given from the government and my sisters one of them. Pisses me off that her boss pays here most of her check in cash so it doesnt look like she makes alot just so she can keep her foodstamps and everything. Then goes around claiming i pay for everything blah blah blah. Granted she is a single mother but there are countless americans who are single parents and make it without the governments help. They would even send here to school free of charge but she could cares less. Its really disgusting how much its abused.

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Us not drilling for oil isn't going to help make oil go down. Building bridges/roads/ hiring teachers isn't going to help. We are short on teachers/roads/bridges we are short jobs.

We need to become energy independent.
 

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For right now stop buying from others. We can get enough from the U.S to support all of the U.S then work Smart on finding something viable to use in the future to eventually transfer over. Having used oil for so long it's not going to happen over night and it's surely not going to happen when 23 million don't have a job.
Get all that we need, export the extra make some money create jobs and drive down the price.
 

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sooooo..... I was on board till he mocked college graduates from California....

anyways, I dont think people like him understand that all prices are more expensive here.... gas, housing, motorcycles, everything from day to day life..

gotta pay to enjoy this area, if you wont someone else will.

Not saying that gas isnt being affected like he describes... but gas has been higher then 1.82 from way before obama was in office.
 

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sooooo..... I was on board till he mocked college graduates from California....

anyways, I dont think people like him understand that all prices are more expensive here.... gas, housing, motorcycles, everything from day to day life..

gotta pay to enjoy this area, if you wont someone else will.

Not saying that gas isnt being affected like he describes... but gas has been higher then 1.82 from way before obama was in office.
Liberal College students. If you aren't a Liberal he wasn't talking to/about you. I would guess to say he is pointing them out because that is where Much of Obama spends his time campaigning "college campuses"
 

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Using all of what we have is also a key. We can't say we don't have enough oil when we haven't tried to drill for it. Sacrificing jobs for Wind/solar/electric cars isn't going to fix our demand/need for oil. We all can't drive electric cars in the next year, it's not going to happen. The infrastructure of "green" energy isn't big enough to support the whole country. The country all can't afford to go out and buy a $50,000 hybrid.

We have an untapped resource in this country and we need to use it to our advantage not ignore it and completely focus on changing this countries need for oil. We should not be paying this much for gas and buying this much from other countries. Produce what we need and export what we don't. Reduce the price and collect on other countries buying from us.

Think about this as well. Gas prices have risen, My electric bill is constantly rising. If I have an electric car that will be charging off my electric bill it's going to be even higher, so tell me how am I saving "anything" by putting less gas in my car and charging it at home? Anyone own a prius? How much is your power bill at home? How much is your gas bill? The power comes from a plant, it doesn't just magically happen when you plug the car in. You have your car on the charger for 8 hours of charging. That cost money. I don't have to fill my car up every day just to drive it.
 

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And think about the money you save just from not buying a outrageously priced hybrid. If you pay $10,000 less for a normal gas powered car. Gas where im from is $3.59 a gallon thats almost 2800 gallons of gas so when you purchase one of those cars are you even really saving? No its going to take longer to catch up with what you think your saving than the car will probably even run and how about how much the batteries cost for those thing. Ill pass

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I think they said is takes 5-10 years to make up for the cost of the hybrid over gas only cars but I don't think they take into account that say for instance you have a Prius you have to replace your batteries when they won't hold a charge anymore. $5000 to do this and I think they are only meant to last 5 years.
 

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True, forgot to mention that you can't work on the car because you can kill yourself by touching the wrong connections. That's a good point.
 

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You use other peoples resources before you use your own. That's survival 101. Drilling the U.S. oil reserves is not a wise choice until we drain the oil out of other countries first.
 
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