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Hi everyone,thks to welcome me.I am from Mauritius.I am 61 yrs but still a bike nut.I ride a 2005 600RR which is stock besides KN air filter & Micron exhaust.My humble question is this : I weigh around 130 lbs (65 kgs),what is the best susp.settings.Here roads are sometimes ok or rough (uneven).Thks for advice.
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Seeing as you weigh 130 lbs you'll need to service the forks and have them install new springs based on your RIDING weight (Wearing all your gear), not your walking around town weight. Have them change the fork oil as it needs it anyways. Then you can start to setup the bike for your riding conditions.
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Welcome to .net!

Seeing as you weigh 130 lbs you'll need to service the forks and have them install new springs based on your RIDING weight (Wearing all your gear), not your walking around town weight. Have them change the fork oil as it needs it anyways. Then you can start to setup the bike for your riding conditions.
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Seeing as you weigh 130 lbs you'll need to service the forks and have them install new springs based on your RIDING weight (Wearing all your gear), not your walking around town weight. Have them change the fork oil as it needs it anyways. Then you can start to setup the bike for your riding conditions.
Thanks for answering,the bike has 65,000 kms (41,000 miles) & the fork oil,steering brgs.,rr sprocket dampers & rr susp.arms.brgs./bushes were replaced last year @ local dealer.I got my parts thru David Silver because you won't get much parts here.I note that she seems to like reduced tyre PSI.
Thanks again for help.
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Have you tried to set up the rider sag with the OEM springs? Are you riding on the street only? You can lower the tire pressure for a softer ride but it will wear out tires much faster. I'd suggest you get some new tires if they're not that new, set them to 36/42 stock pressures, and then try to dial in your suspension. I can guess at suspension settings for you much like everyone else. But it's still just a guess as I can't measure anything from here.

You sounds like you're pretty knowledgeable and have some experience with bikes. What makes you reluctant to set this up by yourself? The only measurement you actually NEED someone else for is the rear rider sag. I never figured out a good way to measure rear sag by myself.

Front sag is easy but it needs to be on a rear stand. Tie a zip-tie around the fork tube and push it all the way up to the fork seal. Get on the bike with all your gear and then get off. Measure the distance between the zip-tie and the fork seal to get your rider sag.

Once you have the rider sag set correctly then you can start dialing in the compression and rebound.
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Have you tried to set up the rider sag with the OEM springs? Are you riding on the street only? You can lower the tire pressure for a softer ride but it will wear out tires much faster. I'd suggest you get some new tires if they're not that new, set them to 36/42 stock pressures, and then try to dial in your suspension. I can guess at suspension settings for you much like everyone else. But it's still just a guess as I can't measure anything from here.

You sounds like you're pretty knowledgeable and have some experience with bikes. What makes you reluctant to set this up by yourself? The only measurement you actually NEED someone else for is the rear rider sag. I never figured out a good way to measure rear sag by myself.

Front sag is easy but it needs to be on a rear stand. Tie a zip-tie around the fork tube and push it all the way up to the fork seal. Get on the bike with all your gear and then get off. Measure the distance between the zip-tie and the fork seal to get your rider sag.

Once you have the rider sag set correctly then you can start dialing in the compression and rebound.
Thanks again for suggestion.The tyres are 4 yrs old M.pilot 3 with full thread.On stock 36/42,I get a bouncy ride & [email protected] 33/39,it improves.Ure right,me chk frt & rr sag & revert back.Thankyou again,will try to send some pics.
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I'm no tire expert as I run Dunlops. But I think I recently read an article describing the Michelin pilots as having a softer carcass then the Dunlops. So it sounds like it's all in your compression/rebound settings and your local roads. These bikes are not the softest suspension Honda has put out. They're made to feel every bump.

You could also try a Corbin seat. IIRC from back in the day, people reported that the Corbin was a softer more comfortable seat compared to the Honda OEM seat. But they preferred the OEM seat for trackdays or aggressive riding.
I'm no tire expert as I run Dunlops. But I think I recently read an article describing the Michelin pilots as having a softer carcass then the Dunlops. So it sounds like it's all in your compression/rebound settings and your local roads. These bikes are not the softest suspension Honda has put out. They're made to feel every bump.

You could also try a Corbin seat. IIRC from back in the day, people reported that the Corbin was a softer more comfortable seat compared to the Honda OEM seat. But they preferred the OEM seat for trackdays or aggressive riding.
I guess i didn't explain well my problem,sorry.The bike feels unstable on stock susp.& tyre psi settings.I don't care really about the ride comfort but only the best handling & cornering characteristics ( I ride only on the street,no track here).
Thank you again.
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Ah! Ok, well then that actually could be the Michelin Pilot tires. The Pilots have a "sharper" more pointed profile as the middle of the tire is slightly higher then say a Dunlop. The Dunlop's are a nice, progressive, predictable profile from edge to edge. So turn in doesn't feel like you're "falling" into the corner. They're much more predictable. The Pilots have an unstable profile that made them feel "twitchy" to me. Some people prefer that unstable feeling but I can't stand it. So I wonder if it's the tires that are making it feel unstable to you. Does the bike feel and handle better on the lower pressures?
Ah! Ok, well then that actually could be the Michelin Pilot tires. The Pilots have a "sharper" more pointed profile as the middle of the tire is slightly higher then say a Dunlop. The Dunlop's are a nice, progressive, predictable profile from edge to edge. So turn in doesn't feel like you're "falling" into the corner. They're much more predictable. The Pilots have an unstable profile that made them feel "twitchy" to me. Some people prefer that unstable feeling but I can't stand it. So I wonder if it's the tires that are making it feel unstable to you. Does the bike feel and handle better on the lower pressures?
Dear you must be a kind of genius.What u said are exactly my feelings & lower pressures help.If Dunlops are not available here,please suggest others.
Thankyou so much
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I guess i didn't explain well my problem,sorry.The bike feels unstable on stock susp.& tyre psi settings.I don't care really about the ride comfort but only the best handling & cornering characteristics ( I ride only on the street,no track here).
Thank you again.
Don't use "suggested" tyre pressure, they are all wrong from decades ago. Needs to be customized for your weight. I prefer to use 32/34psi on street (I weigh 75kg). On track, I'll use 31/28psi pressure. You may want to use 1 to 2psi less pressure than me.

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from another lightweight (135 lbs, 2009 CBR) ....add info to get a spring rate recommendation


Changing springs front and rear makes a great difference.

Can you get rear shock serviced in M?
PS...suggest you get linear rate springs NOT progressive rate springs.

Reason...makes setting suspension easier.
PS...suggest you get linear rate springs NOT progressive rate springs.

Reason...makes setting suspension easier.
Dear all,thanks once more.Here we don't have these specialized shops but I will go thru all your advices & find the best result.If you could suggest some tyres according to my riding style,it would be nice.
Cheers everyone.
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Dear you must be a kind of genius.What u said are exactly my feelings & lower pressures help.If Dunlops are not available here,please suggest others.
Thankyou so much
Whoa there! Be careful with that "G" word. People start having expectations and look at you funny. I just have a brain that's wired differently then most people. ;)

I think the Dave Moss video danno posted is a good start. You may find pressures that you like with the current tires. If not, come back here or maybe talk with someone at one of the big tire suppliers over the phone and tell them what you're trying to do. I'm not familiar enough with other brands to recommend anything other than Dunlops. I just don't have any recent experience with any other brands.
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