[RelfF2]

as long as the factories think they have to win RACES to sell STREET bikes, and are made to RACE thier STREET bikes, they will continue to sell RACE bikes for the STREET.

and if you like high-performance-pushing-the-technology-envelople-for-the-sake-of-going-fast bikes...then this is the golden age.

 

[RelfF2]

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Originally Posted by RelfF2
as long as the factories think they have to win RACES to sell STREET bikes, and are made to RACE thier STREET bikes, they will continue to sell RACE bikes for the STREET.



Agreed.

How many Honda owners know who Josh Hayes or James Toseland are? I really haven't decided if the win on sunday sell on monday is indeed fact. But I really do not beleive that Nicky Hayden has made an impact in sales for the 1000RR

i'm confused....i was saying that the factories beleive in win on sunday sell on monday and that that is whats leading to racier and racier bikes on the street -- and that's a very good thing for those who love high performance motorcycles.

so, you agree but say that honda buyers aren't into racing and that nickey hayden doesn't help honda?

My opinion on race wins vs sales is that it for sure works! the R6 and ZX-6r have done very well in supersport and that has contributed to thier image as potent bikes.

at the same time honda has not gained as much only racing FX where real race fans can see through the "honda sweeps daytona" marketing given the competition in the class. meanwhile not very many people in the US follow World Supersport so those wins have less of an effect. this would also explain the 600rr's stronger image in europe then the us where i have heard forum members "have to defend" thier choice.

GP's are an intersesting one to try to figure out because people understand that those are not street bikes, but i still think that the domination of the RC-v has lead to positive things for the performance image of the 1000rr, but this is somewhat canceled out by the AMA situation though.

 

[RelfF2]

yeah, i can't speak to "statistical proof" but racing results, i feel, for sure have a very noticable effect on the "general image" that a brand or bike have to the riding public. to this i try to imagine the worst case for a bike. imagine that a bike gets redesigned and then goes out and gets trounced on the track. consistently 4th out the 4 manufactures. in this case i think that looks or even competitive magazine lap times would help, but at the end of the day people would just "feel" that it was a dog.