Heres the thing about no cut frame sliders..... They utilize brackets that extend out from the bolt on point, not the best design. If you were to go down and put some force on the sliders, the brackets usually buckle and cause more damage. I suggest woodcraft, they have really done a good job at developing a strong design, I have tested the woodcraft sliders personally on my last bike. People have gone down multiple times and still use the sliders (like me!) They are straight from the point of attachment with no brackets, this creates a stronger design and will not cause significant damage like the no cut sliders. Woodcraft sliders also do not stick out very far, which can help prevent the sliders grabing imperfections and flipping the bike as easily. Parts are easy and cheap to replace as well. Just my .02.