Well I did a search to see how many of you guys use this stuff to clean your bikes. It turns out that quite a few of you use it to clean your chains, but how many of you use it to clean your bikes? I have used it for various other things and it really seems to take the crap off of whatever surface I'm working with. Do any of you guys use this stuff as like a spray on wash, let it sit for a while and then hose it? Are you using just the regular concentrate, and if so how are you diluting it? I'm unsure as to how it may mess with my paint, or if it even will at all. Is there something better?