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MotoGP: Casey Stoner says tyre complaints are just whinging

By Matthew Birt
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27 July 2007 13:29
CASEY STONER reckons Valentino Rossi's complaints about the new tyre rule are just sour grapes as the Australian takes giant steps towards a first MotoGP world title.


After Valentino rossi said the new-for-2007 tyre restrictions were killing the spectacle of MotoGP, Stoner said he thinks the restrictions are making MotoGP a more level playing field and that Bridgestone is simply doing a better job than under pressure rivals Michelin, who can no longer ship in special tyres made overnight.


The Australian Ducati star said: "They can moan and whinge about it as much as they want but it shows they've had such an advantage in the past. They just haven't been capable of bringing in a great tyre just for the race. At the beginning of the season they were all for it. And as soon as they don't win it's crap and as soon as they win it's nothing. I've had my bad races this year, especially in Germany and I'm not complaining about the tyre rule and that it is unfair. It's something you have to live with and you have rely on the company that supports you.
 

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The only riders that have been vocal about the Michelin tires have been Valentino Rossi and Dani Pedrosa. Many other riders have said that MotoGP should move to a spec-tire or change the rule somewhat, including Nicky Hayden. But the vehement opposition to the tire rule has come from Rossi, including support from ex-arch nemesis, Max Biaggi from the SBK paddock:

MotoGP: Max Biaggi and Valentino Rossi finally agree

By Michael Guy

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27 July 2007 12:00

For one of the first times bitter rivals Max Biaggi and Valentino Rossi have agreed on something - that the tyre situation in Moto GP is ruining the championship. Biaggi has revealed that he thinks tyres are making too big a difference in MotoGP with recent races being decided by what rubber each rider is on and not rider ability.

In the last round of MotoGP in Laguna Seca, Rossi who uses Michelins was unable to match the pace of the his rival Bridgestone runners and had to settle for fourth claiming that Bridgestone’s race tyres were as good as his own Michelin qualifiers at the American track.

Since his arrival in WSB this season, Biaggi has been a fan of the one make Pirelli tyre and believes controlled tyres are the way forward for MotoGP.

Speaking exclusively to MCN, he said:

“The tyres play too big differences, and of course there are riders who take the advantages and others that don’t. A few years ago I suggested that this would be the way to go, but at the time nobody took care of it. Today everybody agrees.

“I think they should use a single tyre manufacturer and I believe they will achieve this in the future. Using a single tyre means a better balance in performance, which means that you can understand the skill of each rider and the qualities of each bike. You have genuine competition and a better show during the races. This is why we have seen F1 go in this direction.”
 

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Yea they're kinda right...

Rossi and the midget, shouldn't be complaining. That's life!

But it does suck feeling like the race is decided by the tires more then anything else...

but who really know? NOONE! So shut up and RACE! :)
 

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Stoner is now also a judge of talent, calling some of the riders in the GP paddock unworthy of their seats (which may be true, but you don't say it as a rider):

MotoGP: Title leader tips Chaz Davies for full-time ride

By Matthew Birt

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27 July 2007 13:42

Casey Stoner reckons close pal Chaz Davies is worthy of a full-time ride in the MotoGP world championship after the British rider impressed on his shock Ducati debut in Laguna Seca last weekend.

Stoner and Davies are long time pals having raced together in Britain back in 2000, and the Aussie proved a big helping hand in giving Davies some advice and tips on mastering the D'Antin Ducati GP7 and the tough Laguna Seca circuit.

After finishing just outside the points following a rear sprocket problem, Stoner said: "He did an awesome job and I really hope he can find a permanent seat. He's done a lot better than some other people have done. It was his first time at the circuit, first time with the team and first time with the bike and tyres."
"Some people do a full winter of testing and don't get results like that. I'd like to see him go further. It would be interesting to see what he could do. He's got the talent and it would be interesting to see him get another chance."
 

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Yea who the hell is he to say that. Um Stoner, where were you last year? That's right you were at the back of the pack. Now he has a superior bike and tire setup and he's going to talk all this crap. And tell Rossi he is whining! Rossi is the best racer that has ever lived according to a lot of experts. He won on an inferior machine and beat the Hondas when they were at the top. Put Stoner on Hayden or Rossis bike and let's see where he ends up.
 

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wasnt this the same guy that was bitching about Laguna Seca, and the Sachsenring?

fuk him...

he was whinning last year.
 

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I like Stoner, and I could see how he would say some of these things to defend his dominance. I bet he he hears it everywhere that his lead in the championship is due to his bike and his tires. You would get sick of it too. Stoner is a solid rider and deserves credibility.

I agree though that the new tire rule blows.
 

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Well Stoner is right in a way. You didn't see Rossi showing any sympathy for the Bridgestone runners in the last few years when Michelin was kicking their ass. You didn't see Rossi turning down Michelin when they were giving him favorable treatment. Now that it is Rossi that is on the short end of the tire stick he's not happy with it.

I think Rossi is correct that the tires are deciding the championship and I would rather see a spec tire too. I don't watch racing so I can see how tire wars play out. However, the only reason Rossi has something to say now is because he is now on the receiving end of a bum deal. Not that there is anything terribly wrong with that.

But Rossi is not really speaking up because of a true altruistic concern for the best of the sport, he is speaking up because it is screwing him over. I don't think he would be saying the same thing if Michelin were the ones dominating. Not to say that he wouldn't think the same thing, but he certainly wouldn't be saying it in public.
 

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Stoner is now also a judge of talent, calling some of the riders in the GP paddock unworthy of their seats (which may be true, but you don't say it as a rider):
I didn't really take it as him saying that, he was just pumping up his boy Chaz (whom he raced with in 125's in the UK when he was coming up) and saying that he is good enough to be in GP.
 

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I like Stoner, and I could see how he would say some of these things to defend his dominance. I bet he he hears it everywhere that his lead in the championship is due to his bike and his tires. You would get sick of it too. Stoner is a solid rider and deserves credibility.

I agree though that the new tire rule blows.
Rossi dealt with the same thing when he was at Honda, oh, its cause hes on a Honda, the Honda is faster than the rest...

and they all laughed when he went to Yamaha, they said he could never win again there.

and look, 1st fukin race, BAM! a testament to him, Burgess and the crew.
He laughed so hard he had to come off the bike and sit down laughing...

When anyone else does that, leave a top team to go take 2 more titles on a bike that was considered inferior, then they can talk ****, until them, Stoner has no place.

Hes leading for 2 reasons, 1 the tire, and lets not forget that he won the 1st 3 races un contested because his bike walked away from the competition, remember?

remember when rossi would whip his ass in the turns and be leading and before they got halfway down the straight away Stoner and the superior Ducati power was already infront of him, gone, remember?
remember the double take Rossi took like WTF?

yeah.. Stoner can stfu.. the championship isnt over yet, and Rossi has closed bigger gaps before, remember last year?

yeah so he had better pray that Michelin doesnt pull a magic trick out of that fukin french hat
 

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Nice snik. Agree 100% And Rossi has also talked about evening the playing field even when he was dominating. Rossi is the best plain and simple. If they were all on the same bike Stoner would be in the middle-back of the pack.
 

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Here's a quote from Colin Edwards.

How to sum it up: 'Dude, when was the last time Valentino finished 30 seconds behind the leader?' -- Colin Edwards

Pretty much says that Ducati and Bridgestones has an advantage. You think.
 

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yeah.. Stoner can stfu.. the championship isnt over yet, and Rossi has closed bigger gaps before, remember last year?

yeah so he had better pray that Michelin doesnt pull a magic trick out of that fukin french hat
True that last year he closed a bigger gap but the difference is Stoner wins races and Hayden doesn't!

Michelin always never did too well in GP... Their factory location really helped their riders when they can send out overnight tires... All this "trust" in Michelin is hurting their riders now... I think Yamaha Factory should switch to Bridgestone and let Tech 3 handle Michelin with Edwards onboard.

Since Gresini is on Bridgestone, maybe it is too late for Repsol to run it next year!
 

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And I just read in RoadRacing World that Rossi and Hayden congratulated Stoner on his riding. They said I know he's gettin a lot of flak for his bike but he is riding great. And he still says this shi*. What an ass. He feels all big now but wait till all the other teams are caught up next year and the real riders come through cough Rossi Hayden cough
 

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Well Stoner is right in a way. You didn't see Rossi showing any sympathy for the Bridgestone runners in the last few years when Michelin was kicking their ass. You didn't see Rossi turning down Michelin when they were giving him favorable treatment. Now that it is Rossi that is on the short end of the tire stick he's not happy with it.
Yeah, but the difference is, Rossi never called other riders whiners. He never called other veteran riders unworthy of GP rides. I am starting to drop Stoner in my books. Just because he's getting flack for all the criticism, doesn't mean that he should toss around some criticism on his own. Riders aren't criticizing him. In fact, Rossi and Hayden had only the best to say about him.

My problem with Stoner is he's taking all this advantage and letting it get to his head where he starts speaking crap about riders, especially the GOAT. Not that Rossi can do no wrong, but if he says there's a discerning difference between tires, then there needs to be a revamp to the rule. And it's not just him saying that.

What this is doing is making plainly obvious Stoner's age. His immaturity is showing and it's coming out of a disrespect. Stoner gets a big goose egg in my book. He's a jerk, no matter how good a rider he is.
 
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