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City, State, % of People Below the Poverty Level
1. Detroit, MI
32.5%
2. Buffalo, NY
29..9%
3. Cincinnati, OH
27.8%
4. Cleveland, OH
27.0%
5. Miami, FL
26.9%
5. St. Louis, MO
26.8%
7. El Paso, TX
26.4%
8. Milwaukee, WI
26.2%
9. Philadelphia, PA
25.1%
10. Newark, NJ
24.2%

U.S. Census Bureau, 2006 American Community Survey, August 2007What do the top ten cities (over 250,000) with the highest poverty rate all have in common?Detroit (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn't elected a Republican mayor since 1961;
Buffalo (2nd) hasn't elected one since 1954;
Cincinnati (3rd)...since 1984;
Cleveland (4th)...since 1989;
Miami (5th) has never had a Republican mayor;
St. Louis (6th)....since 1949;
El Paso (7th) has never had a Republican mayor;
Milwaukee (8th)...since 1908;
Philadelphia (9th)...since 1952;
Newark (10th)...since 1907.
Einstein once said, 'The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.'

It is the poor who habitually elect Democrats---yet they are still POOR!!!

"You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down. You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence. You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves."
Abraham Lincoln
 

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Interesting indeed... What if you do it on a state level? Does it still hold true?

If you look at this list of poorest by state, you notice that 7-8 of the top 10 fairly consistently vote republican. Which is exactly opposite to what your list shows... I think it's safe to say that it isn't as clear a picture. Additionally, Detroit's elections have been non-partisan since 1915, so they don't run as democrats/republicans.

I do however, agree with the notion that minorities/poor do tend to vote democrat moreso than republican.



http://www.statemaster.com/red/graph/eco_per_bel_pov_lev-economy-percent-below-poverty-level&b_printable=1

Percent below poverty level by state
Rank States Amount
# 1 Mississippi: 21.6%
# 2 Louisiana: 19.4%
# 3 New Mexico: 19.3%
# 4 District of Columbia: 18.9%
= 5 Arkansas: 17.9%
= 5 West Virginia: 17.9%
# 7 Kentucky: 17.4%
# 8 Texas: 16.6%
# 9 Alabama: 16.1%
# 10 South Carolina: 15.7%

[snipped the remaining states for brevity]

*Only showing the last 3 election maps, things look a little better under Clinton, but worse under Bush Sr.

2008:


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Yeah, but in many of the red states, the cost of living is much less. I live an hour north of detroit, it may be non-partisan but they all have been Democratic, and usally have 2 democrats running aginst each other. After all... the auto union... But, yeah, found it very interesting
 

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Yeah, but in many of the red states, the cost of living is much less. I live an hour north of detroit, it may be non-partisan but they all have been Democratic, and usally have 2 democrats running aginst each other. After all... the auto union... But, yeah, found it very interesting
Got any supporting evidence for that? And what do you mean by "much less". Housing is pretty f'ing cheap in detroit... and I can't think of anything essential that would be significantly higher in Detroit than somewhere in Mississippi. I'm sure there's a relative pattern as far as cost of living in most of the areas with huge poverty rates.
 

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what do you mean by "much less". Housing is pretty f'ing cheap in detroit... and I can't think of anything essential that would be significantly higher in Detroit than somewhere in Mississippi.
seriously? you have a lack of elementary knowledge in what makes up "cost of living" and therefore, no credibility.
 

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Wow, good one. How about educating the feeble minded? Oh please Mr. credible!

So, lets do a run down on the major red states cities'... Lets see how major cities in the poorest states fair against Detroit... Lets see how little credibility my previous statements have.

1) Detroit, MI vs Jackson, MS: Jackson is 8% cheaper.
2) Detroit, MI vs Baton Rouge, LA: Baton Rouge is 21% more expensive.
3) Detroit, MI vs Albuquerque, NM: Albuquerque is 30% more expensive.
5) Detroit, MI vs Little Rock, AR: Little Rock is 9% more expensive.
5) Detroit, MI vs Charleston, WV: Charleston is 2% more expensive.
7) Detroit, MI vs Lexington-Fayette, KY: Lexington is 17% more expensive.
8) Detroit, MI vs Austin, TX: Austin 31% more.
8) Detroit, MI vs Dallas, TX: Dallas is 26% more expensive.
8) Detroit, MI vs San Antonio, TX: San Antonio is 2% more expensive.
9) Detroit, MI vs Birmingham, AL: Birmingham is 9% more expensive.
10) Detroit, MI vs Columbia, SC: Columbia is 11% more expensive.

So basically, ONE major city in the poorest red states has a lower cost of living than Detroit... Or do you think we should be be comparing Detroit against small towns in the south?

Care to backup your opinion with anything substantial? Are insults the best you got? How about, instead of attacking people's credibility you PROVE them wrong... like I just did to you. Check mate, get lost until you have a real opinion/argument.
 

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It is the poor who habitually elect Democrats---yet they are still POOR!!!
Yea like Miami right, where the majority of people who live there are from a place where Miami no matter how poor it might be it is still be heaven compared to where they come from in the first place. How are Cubans suppose to know any better when they come from a poorer and communist country? :-/ The other cities I can't talk about because I have not been there... and probably some of you haven't either... This politics forum can get quite old when most of the arguments are not even lived personally. All facts come from opinions from either the web or some statistics published by more ignorant people who probably haven't even lived near the cities they mention and they don't know the real reason why things are the way they are.
 
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