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Yeah, the overall design feels kinda lazy. Not a lot of continuity... But I do prefer the cafe look over what Zero is doing.

The rear wheel, they say, is "Akira-inspired". Looks like they just put a circular cutout over the spokes.
 

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Its electric. I hope it expires and withers away.
 
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Why the hate for electric? Like it or not that's the direction we're headed.

The issue now is the battery tech. There are huge trade offs between low weight, high power, and long range. Pick two. There's also the question of where the electricity comes from that charges the batteries but that's a hot mess of a topic.

I personally have nothing against electrics. They are amazingly simple and have insta-torque when not designed for eco-friendliness.
 

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Why the hate for electric?
They provide thrust, that is all.

-They don't make awesome noises.
-They don't make cool vibrations.
-They don't have personalitys at all.
-They don't require work to keep going, meaning they have no soul. No feeling of greatness that you changed your oil, spark plugs etc and kept your baby in tip top shape. Now all you can claim is you always keep your battery charged. Wow that sounds fun.

In other words, electrics are dumb.
 
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So, you don't like something that's simple, easy, and just works well? Wanna by my E92? Changing the battery is an exercise and a test in patience.
 

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So, you don't like something that's simple, easy, and just works well? Wanna by my E92? Changing the battery is an exercise and a test in patience.
HAH!
Had an E93... those cars were a maintenance disaster! Battery like you said... Also... Why the F*** do you need to remove the wheel to get to the halo lights?


Back to topic: Don't really like it. Form follows function, ok. but this is just lazy and unfinished.
 

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They provide thrust, that is all.

1-They don't make awesome noises.
2-They don't make cool vibrations.
3-They don't have personalitys at all.
4-They don't require work to keep going, meaning they have no soul. No feeling of greatness that you changed your oil, spark plugs etc and kept your baby in tip top shape. Now all you can claim is you always keep your battery charged. Wow that sounds fun.

In other words, electrics are dumb.
1-They don't have to be loud, I love my loud 600rr, but I would also love a super silent dual sport to go off roading on so I won't get bothered by the police.
2-I don't like vibrations, especially for commuting.
3-That's a matter of opinion, although I do agree they don't. but it's still not a reason to hate them though.
4-sounds like a good thing to me. No maintenance sounds like a blessing. I like working on bikes too, but it's also a blessing to have a reliable bike that doesn't cost anything to maintain.
 

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So, you don't like something that's simple, easy, and just works well? Wanna by my E92? Changing the battery is an exercise and a test in patience.
Lol, Porsche Cayenne's you have to remove the front seat, Lamborghini Gallardo's require taking out the trunk to get to the front suspension cradle where the batt is stored, and Ferrari California's require removing all the engine plastics plus the airbox lids, intake tubes and MAF's from the throttle bodies. E92's are a cake walk for me these days!
Come to think of it, I wonder how hard prius batterys are?
 

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pretty scratchy design wise for $21K's.

I like the IOM tt0 bikes a lot more.....they've got some sexy aero stuff and use mostly normal racing quality parts.

limited range and recharge times make elec bikes still no good fror a 300 mile day......

I like the electric trials style motos a lot, they're the right application for an electric moto.....
 
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