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Kawasaki and Suzuki have plenty of models in their sportsbike section. While Honda just dropped the RC-51, F4i, 599 from their lineup. Where's the new replacement? F5!! common
 

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give them time, grasshopper. they know what they are doing. big company. lots of money to pay very smart people to figure out markets and whatnot.
 

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what the RC51 is no more? that blows, fuk an F4 they should replace the V twin beast.
 

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Honda does need a 750, and a v twin, and a smaller sport tourer/beginner bike, but there really isn't any incentive. Bike sales are mainly dictated by what the magazines say. The magazines don't give a crap about what makes a bike a good streetbike, it's all about which bike circles the track faster. Then you figure in the race classes, which are now either 600cc or 1000cc, and that's really all the sportbikes they feel they need. It just comes down to the f4i isn't as "cool or fast" as the 600rr, so nobody bought it. I mean really, how many of you bought the f4i over the 600rr when they were sitting right beside each other on the showroom floor, this isn't f4i.net is it? The rc51 wasn't as cool or fast as the 1000rr, so not too many people bought it either. It just doesn't make sense for a company to build expensive niche bikes so they don't. I think the only way honda will make another vtwin or 750 is if racing rules dictate one for homogulation (is that even a word?). They might build a more comfortable 600 or other small bike just because everyone else has one right now, ie: yzf600r, r6s, fz6, gs500, ex500, ninja650r, sv650, etc. Honda doesn't really have anything in that class right now so I can see it being done. But there just isn't a 750 class to speak of (gixxer aside) and there are no japanese vtwin race replicas now, so sadly I feel they won't be coming back. Maybe we'll get lucky and ama superbike and wsb will feel that the bikes are too fast now and restrict capacity like motogp has done. That will probably be the only way we'll see something near a 750 again.
 

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They might build a more comfortable 600 or other small bike just because everyone else has one right now, ie: yzf600r, r6s, fz6, gs500, ex500, ninja650r, sv650, etc. Honda doesn't really have anything in that class right now so I can see it being done.
is that not what the F4i was? sport touring.... nice soft bananna seat. comfortable. good egros. some sport bike styling. etc.
 

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^^^ i agree... something more 600rrish (with a softer seat and less power)?
 

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^^^but nobody bought it. I think maybe they'll do something fresh if they do anything at all.
Can you provide any links to numbers for that? The F4i's seem pretty popular to me. Not as good looking as the RR, but its also cheaper and seems to hold their value pretty damn well for used ones.

Its only because I don't see how the f4i can sell so badly if the yzf600r (unchanged since 97), gs500 and zzr's can still sell enough standing next to the R6's and gsxr's and zx-6rs.
 

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Why on earth would Honda keep building the RC51?
It is past its prime, has been unchanged since '02, and is no longer a superbike platform. They haven't sold well at all in recent years, either. Why buy a new one when you can buy an identical four year old model for half showroom prices?
The only v-twin that would make sense for Honda to build would be a new 650 Hawk GT. That thing would sell, and would be relevant in today's market.
 

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isnt that what a suzuki is?..lol
lol good point. didn't think of it that way.
 

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My dealer buddy told me yesterday that the full 2007 lineup is not out yet from Honda and the F4i might be back. I don't care if it is, but they were not told yet if it is gone from the 2007 lineup. RC51 is gone for sure. I was also told that one of the big makes is coming out with a full automatic tranny sport bike! It won't be for the trackers, mainly for the ladies and other people who can't work a clutch or want something too damn easy. I don't know if it is for 2007 or 2008.
 

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i'm sorry but that would just be wierd....
 
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