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Arrow How To: Rear Brake Reservoir Delete

So, parts you need are:
(1) Tubing - Tygon 2075 preferably as it won't sweat.
(2) Hose clamps
(3) 1/2" clamp with rubber
(4) Plug

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you can also do it in a shorter version like what i have.
same parts used.

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instructions please :) want to do this tonight

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if you have the tubing, just cut it to whatever length you want and slip it on the rear master cylinder. use the clamps to tighten the tubing down.

then you will need to refill the line and bleed the rear brake (some feel its not necessary, but i always do since i have a vacuum bleed tool)

i use the stock reservoir to fill the line as its damn near impossible to pour the fluid in the line by itself.

then plug the line, im actually using an 8mm aluminum bolt w/ the head of it cut off, all thats left is a smooth flange and the threads.
put the clamp on the plug end and viola, cleaned up rear end :)
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when you take the tube off the master cyclinder is break fluid going to spill out?

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i thought there was another way to do this without having to leave the line there like that. i dont know if i like how that looks. it definately looks cleaner, but wasnt there another way?

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when you take the tube off the master cyclinder is break fluid going to spill out?
well yes, first you should drain all the fluid out of the brake using the rear bleed nipple.

and yes there is another way of doing this, you either buy a cr450 master cylinder and mod your rearsets, or buy a new rear reservoir like the g craft.
both of those cost about 75 bucks or more.

what cru and i posted costs maybe 10 bucks.
i actually think i have $4.50 in mine, bolt, clamps, tubing.
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when you drain the fluid doesnt it drain all the fluid out of the reservoir? is the brake fluid you drain reusable or should you get new fluid to refill the tube.

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well yes, first you should drain all the fluid out of the brake using the rear bleed nipple.

and yes there is another way of doing this, you either buy a cr450 master cylinder and mod your rearsets, or buy a new rear reservoir like the g craft.
both of those cost about 75 bucks or more.

what cru and i posted costs maybe 10 bucks.
i actually think i have $4.50 in mine, bolt, clamps, tubing.
Yep. No way of getting around this, you'll have to bleed your system at least enough to drain the fluid out of the line to the reservoir. Also, I think it looks racier (is that even a word? ) and is cheaper than the CRF450 mod, but that's just me.


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when you drain the fluid doesnt it drain all the fluid out of the reservoir? is the brake fluid you drain reusable or should you get new fluid to refill the tube.
You should just drain and put in new fluid. You shouldn't reuse fluid.

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well yes, first you should drain all the fluid out of the brake using the rear bleed nipple.

and yes there is another way of doing this, you either buy a cr450 master cylinder and mod your rearsets, or buy a new rear reservoir like the g craft.
both of those cost about 75 bucks or more.

what cru and i posted costs maybe 10 bucks.
i actually think i have $4.50 in mine, bolt, clamps, tubing.
ok, thats what i thought, i was thinking of the g-craft.

well sh*t, for 10 bucks you cant really beat it. i wasnt knocking the idea, it looks wayyyy better then having that big ugly plastic thing there. props to the OP for posting this!

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ya, you want to get fresh brake fluid.
you can get standard DOT 4 fluid at any auto parts store, DONT USE DOT 3 or DOT 5.
you can use DOT 5.1, but im not a fan of that stuff really.

my brake fluid of choice is Motul RBF 600, its pricey, but worth it IMO. its a DOT 4 fluid w/ a 600* f boiling point.
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too lazy to search while at work but whats the easier way to bleed w/o using the tool? or is there

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and ya mod looks sweet. headed to home depot to get supplies right after work lol

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ya, you want to get fresh brake fluid.
you can get standard DOT 4 fluid at any auto parts store, DONT USE DOT 3 or DOT 5.
you can use DOT 5.1, but im not a fan of that stuff really.

my brake fluid of choice is Motul RBF 600, its pricey, but worth it IMO. its a DOT 4 fluid w/ a 600* f boiling point.
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too lazy to search while at work but whats the easier way to bleed w/o using the tool? or is there
You can get a cheap kit at a local auto parts store or get a Mity-Vac.


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and ya mod looks sweet. headed to home depot to get supplies right after work lol
Thanks! Oh, Home Depot won't have the Tygon 2075, you'll have to get that online from an industrial supply place like mcmaster.com (they ship same day and have many warehouses). If you use other tubing it will either disintegrate or it will sweat.


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would any hardware store have the tubing? also what size of the tubing should i buy and what lenght did you order for yours cru

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would any hardware store have the tubing?
Doubtful. It's pretty specific tubing.

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ya, this needs to be tygon tubing, regular clear tubing will either sweat, or possible melt as brake fluid is pretty nasty stuff.
it will take paint off your plastics, so be sure to not spill any.
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i thought there was another way to do this without having to leave the line there like that. i dont know if i like how that looks. it definately looks cleaner, but wasnt there another way?
i just took my res out of tail, cut hose to 2" and used a small hose clamp to secure res on top of master cyclinder! looks clean!
this is gonna look so much nicer with a rizoma res!

no bleeding, cost...$0 ! i just dont like the look of a hose going to nothing!

why remove res anyway?? weight?



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less to fall off or get damaged in a crash. ^
plus the clear tubing makes it real easy to see what the fluid level is at.
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less to fall off or get damaged in a crash. ^
plus the clear tubing makes it real easy to see what the fluid level is at.
aaaaaahhh.... clever!


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i just took my res out of tail, cut hose to 2" and used a small hose clamp to secure res on top of master cyclinder! looks clean!
this is gonna look so much nicer with a rizoma res!

no bleeding, cost...$0 ! i just dont like the look of a hose going to nothing!

why remove res anyway?? weight?

that looks good man. how long did that take? you didnt have to bleed the brake for that?

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that looks good man. how long did that take? you didnt have to bleed the brake for that?
thank you sir, took about 15 min.
nope, no bleeding, pinch the hose, remove res/line, drain fluid, cut hose down plug back to master cyclinder refill w/new fluid... done!!


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what size diameter is the tubing and how long did you use op?

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what size diameter is the tubing and how long?
You need ~1.25'-1.5', so just order 2' and have some spare. You should get either the 5/16 " or 3/8" ID and the 7/16" or 1/2" OD. I went with the bigger, but I think if I were to do do it again, I'd get the smaller.

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so you recommend going with 5/16'' ID and the 7/16'' OD tubing?

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so you recommend going with 5/16'' ID and the 7/16'' OD tubing?
Yep. You might need to warm up the tubing a little to fit over the m/c nipple, but you should be good.

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awesome just ordered the tubing through mcmaster. thanks for all your help. will update thread when i get it installed.

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i just took my res out of tail, cut hose to 2" and used a small hose clamp to secure res on top of master cyclinder! looks clean!
this is gonna look so much nicer with a rizoma res!

no bleeding, cost...$0 ! i just dont like the look of a hose going to nothing!

why remove res anyway?? weight?



carbon .... what did you attach it to, or is it pretty secure just leaving it?

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awesome just ordered the tubing through mcmaster. thanks for all your help. will update thread when i get it installed.

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