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How To: GP Shifting w/ Stock Rearsets

I've searched several threads about switching over to GP shifting and wanted to try and compile the information I found. Today I switched my shifter over to GP style. You will have to remove the front sprocket cover for clearance. You will not need to use zip-ties for the water hose or anything else. The clearances between the shifter arm, the water hose, and the chain are close, but they will fit without conflicts.

Here's what you'll need:

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First thing you'll need to do is mark the current shifter position. Take a piece of masking tape and tape it to the frame behind the shifter. Mark the tape where the shifter is located. Now remove the front sprocket cover and guide plate by removing the (2) 8mm bolts. (Note the punch mark on the spindle.) Take this opportunity to clean the front sprocket and chain.



Next take your (2) 10mm wrenches and break each lock nut loose, top and bottom, on the linkage rod. (Reverse threading) Run each universal joint out about 3/8" to start with and snug the locknuts. (Don't run the threads out too far on the linkage rod.) Lengthening the rod will make it closer to your original shifter location when you flip the gearshift arm around. Now remove the 10mm pinch bolt on the shifter arm and pull the linkage rod off the spindle.



Unclip the Throttle Stop Screw Knob from the clamp. Pull the clamp off the water hose and move it behind the overflow tubes. Then reclip the Screw Knob back onto the clamp.



Finally reinstall the guide plate and (2) 8mm bolts. I used (2) 3/8" nuts as spacers to make up for the space of the cover plate (The picture below doesn't show them). Reverse the gearshift arm and flip the universal joint around. Remount the linkage rod back onto the spindle as close to 180 from the punch mark. Now spin the linkage rod up or down to match your original shifter location. Tighten the locknuts on the linkage rod and



That's it! You're all done!

It took me longer to write this then it will for you to actually do this. Very easy! Just be sensible and don't wear loose clothing with the sprocket cover removed. Jeans, riding pants, or your leathers and you should be fine. Slacks or dress pants are not advisable!

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excellent write up. You will get many props on this one.

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awesome... might give this a try.

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sorry but this is a total noob question but how is the gp shift better

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Any disadvantage to removing the sprocket cover? More dirt? Dirty chain? More chain wear? Getting a piece of clothing stuck in there?
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Any disadvantage to removing the sprocket cover? More dirt? Dirty chain? More chain wear? Getting a piece of clothing stuck in there?
I know a lot of people are concerned about this but allow me to point out a few things. Do you realize how much dirt and oil/lube build up inside that cover? Most people will never even bother to take it off and clean the front sprocket until it's worn out. With it off you can now see the sprocket (like the rear) and clean it when neccesary. Furthermore, what's the difference in the front sprocket being exposed and the rear? I can't see any. I have over 18k miles on the original chain and sprocket and this is the first time I've taken off my front cover. There wasn't as much build-up as I had imagined but it was still overdue for cleaning.

As far as clothing, I can't say it's impossible but highly unlikely that something would get caught in the sprocket. Your leg sits behind the sprocket and not right next to it. Plus, for those stupid enough to wear loose clothing with the sprocket cover off, the wind blows any loose clothing away from the sprocket. So I think the fear of the cover being off shouldn't be the thing stopping you from trying this. Wear your boots like you're supposed to!


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sorry but this is a total noob question but how is the gp shift better
Have you ever bounced off the rev limiter in a left hander because you couldn't get your foot under the shifter? Now you bang down. Some people like it because they feel they can shift better pushing down instead of pulling up.


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nice write up, i'm going to try it .THANKS

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wow...i never even imagined this. is that how GP bikes really shift? and how long does it take to learn the opposite of what you're used to?
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wow...i never even imagined this. is that how GP bikes really shift? and how long does it take to learn the opposite of what you're used to?
For me, it wasn't near as bad as I had imagined. But I did catch myself trying to start off in 2nd more than once. Just take it easy for awhile until your muscle memory builds up.


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hey i didnt see this. Great job on the write up. 4000 miles on the GP shift and no problems
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hey i didnt see this. Great job on the write up. 4000 miles on the GP shift and no problems
I thought you were riding with us today? What the hell are you doing on here! Stay out too late?


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yeah i don think i want to build my memory up on that i dont hav emuch space left jk but i dont ride hard enough yet first season mybe after i get a race bike and am not afaid to lay it down

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Cool write-up. On GP-shift as a whole, though: I get the whole "it's difficult to get your foot under the shift-lever on a tight left-hander" thing. But consider this: You never go up the box as quickly as you go down it. I mean, if you're accelerating out of a corner, the up-shifts are not as close together as the down-shifts are when you come screaming into a corner braking like a savage. So it would seem logical to have the downshifts like they are now, where you can just "tap-tap-tap" on the lever to drop from 5th to 2nd before you peel into the corner. Or is that just me?
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Cool write-up. On GP-shift as a whole, though: I get the whole "it's difficult to get your foot under the shift-lever on a tight left-hander" thing. But consider this: You never go up the box as quickly as you go down it. I mean, if you're accelerating out of a corner, the up-shifts are not as close together as the down-shifts are when you come screaming into a corner braking like a savage. So it would seem logical to have the downshifts like they are now, where you can just "tap-tap-tap" on the lever to drop from 5th to 2nd before you peel into the corner. Or is that just me?
Well think of it this way. Where do you need to be the fastest in your shifting? Upshifting (Accelerating)! Not downshifting (Decelerating). I find that GP shifting is much faster going through the gears especially if you're clutchless shifting. I see no difference in "downshifting" speeds.


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good writeup I did it yesterday, The only thing that I did different was I used some zipties to kinda keep everything out of the way.

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i already snap my shifter up to fast and hard already. not worth it to me. going to start and find shavings in your filters where you are mashing the pedle down to hard and takind off some metal on the gears. like the post though. just dont like the idea personally

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i already snap my shifter up to fast and hard already. not worth it to me. going to start and find shavings in your filters where you are mashing the pedle down to hard and takind off some metal on the gears. like the post though. just dont like the idea personally
I can't see that happening. Your not using anymore pressure one way or the other. It's not like I'm jumping on the shifter.


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Righty, I did this tonight and have a question: The linkage rod is now *bloody* close to the countershaft sprocket!! About 6-8mm, I would estimate. Are you guys okay with that?! I know it shouldn't ever make contact, but what if it does?!
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Righty, I did this tonight and have a question: The linkage rod is now *bloody* close to the countershaft sprocket!! About 6-8mm, I would estimate. Are you guys okay with that?! I know it shouldn't ever make contact, but what if it does?!
I know what you mean. That's why I said that the tolerances were close but acceptable. If it makes you nervous just check it often to make sure it's not making contact with the front sprocket. I've checked mine several times and it's not hitting.


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i switched my bike to gp-shift the first day I had it. But I've never taken the sprocket cover off (bike is only a few months old and haven't done 520 conversion yet). Never saw a reason for it. Zip-tied the heater hose out of the way and never had a problem. I'm not looking at the bike, but I believe my linkage is on the outside and not the inside like you have shown.
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...never taken the sprocket cover off ... Zip-tied the heater hose out of the way and never had a problem. ...my linkage is on the outside and not the inside like you have shown.
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That stock gp shifting looks wierd to me. Vortex all the way!

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How can you beat free GP shifting? Shifts great! Unless you need rear sets for your feet or legs, you can put that money somewhere esle.


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just finished the modify for the gp shifting. Wonderful tips.
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why the heck do stock bikes shift the way they do. Why can't they come with GP shift stock? Any one know?
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why the heck do stock bikes shift the way they do. Why can't they come with GP shift stock? Any one know?
Because years ago when every manufacturer had their own way of mounting the controls, the powers that be said..."Standardize this sh!t!" Ok..maybe not exactly like that. But the standard was set at 1 down/5 up, throttle on the right, clutch on the left, etc...


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i tried this last night and had second thoughts when i took my sprocket cover off.... i dont want all the chain lube thrown onto my engine... so i just put it back how it was. i did adjust the shifter up a little bit higher and that helps get your foot underneath it easier and to me it feels better.

Redfox, how did you get yours on there like you said because i tried that and for one my linkage isnt long enough i dont think and for two the hose was in the way like you said. what did you zip tie it to? do you have an 05 like me?
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