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Hey is there any sound difference? I know when my friend gutted out his triumph street triple R intake, every time you gun it, it sounded like his bike was barked... lol..

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I did this mod to my '07 after reading Demented's thread a couple of years ago. I had a Leo Vince can with no restrictor on before I did the mod. I had been unhappy with the performance of my bike and can point to a couple of rides with a passenger where I felt like a Moped or a 250 could blow me away. After the mod was done I also noticed the increased sound but I also felt the seat of the pants performance increase! It pulls harder in each gear up to 5th now. No more embarrassment with a lack of power while riding with a passenger anymore!. All I can figure out is that having a performance can combined with the increased volume of air from the now racing style intake has increased HP. I am running a stock air filter and no PC. My MPG has not changed. I don't have any dyno results to prove my theory but that Hayabusa that tried to pull away from me on the freeway a few months after doing this Mod was pretty surprised that I was able to keep up with him :) IMO this is hands down a must do mod for any CBR owner. My bike now feels like a bike I would not be embarrassed to take to the track.



So to recap, If you have done the mod and are disappointed that sound is the only difference you notice try adding an aftermarket can.



^ so first you were dissapointed with your power... and after gutting the intake (which will add maybe at best 2-4 hp max in the midrange) you are now almost Hyabusa-fast .

before the 4hp increase in the midrange you were embarrassed to take your bike to the track, and now you arent?

Sorry dude - I think the seat of your pants increase in performance is all in your head.. 2-4 hp is almost un noticable when these bikes can accellerate from 0 to 60 in 2.8 seconds stock.

gutting the intake, adding a full exhaust, BMC race filter, power commander, etc... will add maybe 4-6 hp at the top end make the bike accellerate from 0 to 60 in about 2.75 seconds (not too much different) when doing all these mods what is most noticable is smooth throttle response - not more power)

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^ so first you were dissapointed with your power... and after gutting the intake (which will add maybe at best 2-4 hp max in the midrange) you are now almost Hyabusa-fast .

before the 4hp increase in the midrange you were embarrassed to take your bike to the track, and now you arent?

Sorry dude - I think the seat of your pants increase in performance is all in your head.. 2-4 hp is almost un noticable when these bikes can accellerate from 0 to 60 in 2.8 seconds stock.

gutting the intake, adding a full exhaust, BMC race filter, power commander, etc... will add maybe 4-6 hp at the top end make the bike accellerate from 0 to 60 in about 2.75 seconds (not too much different) when doing all these mods what is most noticable is smooth throttle response - not more power)
Have you done it to yours? I stand by my statements and the mod costs $0 to do (or buy a $400 Ten Kate Intake as the racing teams do). Nothing to lose.

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Ya...... I've done it to mine..... I stand by my statement knowing yours is largely exaggerated!





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Have you done it to yours? I stand by my statements and the mod costs $0 to do (or buy a $400 Ten Kate Intake as the racing teams do). Nothing to lose.
You really can't compare oem to the ten kate. The ten kate is pretty much a straight through design with zero restriction. No bend at all.

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I gutted mine as well a few years back when demented first posted the thread and it wasn't a crazy increase in hp, even after a dyno tune. Certainly not enough to hang with a Busa from a 75mph roll. The Ten Kate ram air intake like sincalirider said is better because it has no bends in its structure. Air likes to take the path of least resistance.

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I did the lazy version last week when doing the led color swap. Took out the flat pieces only. Today my tach stopped working so I had to go back and take the front end apart. While I was there I took the front round part out. Definitely the trickiest part but waiting to see if there is a bigger intake noise.

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i noticed alittle noise in mine i took out those round pieces stickin into it and made sheetmetal pieces to cover up the hole. i think on my build page i have pics
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I'm calling b.s. on the hanging with a busa too! I have a ZX14 and a 600RR and they aren't even close.

On topic: I'm gonna have to do this mod soon, It's the first I've heard of this(new to the 600RR).

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any word on doing this mod and riding in the rain? Ill advised? What would happen?

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dont think it makes a diff for the rain ... rain is rain gutted or not shouldnt make a diff
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any word on doing this mod and riding in the rain? Ill advised? What would happen?
Unrtunately I have been caught in a full out down poor for 5 straight hours with this mod.... The good thing - the rain had no affect on the bikes performance.

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Unrtunately I have been caught in a full out down poor for 5 straight hours with this mod.... The good thing - the rain had no affect on the bikes performance.
Same...but only in the rain for about 3hrs...got completly soaked...no affect on bike

also was riding with a buddy that has a busa...does that make me "busa fast" as well

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Anyone know what the pieces on the fairing stay are for? Are they just added restrictions/baffles/sound deadeners? Or are they there to support the stay. Its difficult for me to visualize without seeing it.

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Anyone know what the pieces on the fairing stay are for? Are they just added restrictions/baffles/sound deadeners? Or are they there to support the stay. Its difficult for me to visualize without seeing it.
I just did this mod today and I think its just to help get the gauges lined up correctly. The intake to me looks like it was designed for horsepower and later retrofitted for the sound deadeners...which makes sense. I suspect they built the bike and tested it, saw it made too much intake noise and added those baffles to quiet it down...

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thanks for the writeup im doing this t-n

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This how to primarily follows Demented's How To: Opening up 07-08 stock air intake
I decided to remake this because his pictures were gone, and people were wanting some pictures (including myself), so I did it and took some pictures while I was at it.

*Disclaimer* I can't be held responsible for any damage/injuries you may cause to the bike or yourself. Follow these directions at your own risk.

Ok, to begin with, I'm assuming you already know how to take off your plastics, and that you have already removed your lower/mid/upper plastics as well as the front plastic/third eye. Also, to make things a lil easier, take off these lil black plastic pieces as well:


Next, unplug the black and the white connectors on the left side, and the large connector and small connector on the right side, as shown in the picture.


Now remove the hex screw on the back of the fairing stay on each side of the air intake.


Next, remove the headlights, but undoing the bottom screw and the top screw for each one. After the headlights have been removed, grab an 8mm socket to remove the 4 bolts on the front of the stay. Once these are removed, your stay/gauge cluster will come off as one piece (lift it up off the intake).


Now time for the air intake itself. On each side, there are to 10mm bolts that hold the intake on. Bend the metal clips back so you can undo these bolts (you'll have to turn the handlebars to get the forks out of the way). Once you've taken these 4 bolts out (again, 2 on each side), straighten the handlebars so you can pull the intake straight out.


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nice write up and mod... looking forward on doing it to my bike.
any way of doing it with taking off minimal amount of plastics?
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what do you use for block off plates?

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attached is for those who are doing it so theres no need to dremel the pieces or try and break em off just split the halves, remove the baffles and reglue with super glue:

https://www.600rr.net/vb/showthread.php?t=231442

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what do you use for block off plates?
do you mean block off plates if using a aftermarket fairing holder? tripages gauge holder and motoholders come with block off plates. If your talking about blocking the holes if using the stock fairing holder you can foam seal the inside then fill the end with a hardener silicone like used for car windows (urethane)

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I used a soda can and sealant.. cut it to size w tinsnips, superglued it where the foam used to be, duct taped overtop for security.. and then sealed the inside perimeter while the air duct was in halves. Also took the two protruding pieces off of the fairing stay obviously.
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Has anyone found any drawbacks to this mod yet? I'm running an OEM filter.
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received my new intake tube today(spare for the race bike) and decided to gut it and put it in in place of the stocker. I chose to split the intake down the middle giving me 2 halves, which was much easier IMO than trying to use a screw driver or what not. Splitting it was easy and I just used 3M super adhesive to glue it back together. I took 2 pictures from the front and rear of the intake tubes comparing the difference. Left is stock right is gutted. Havent ridden it yet as its my race bike, but once I do ill post another response.
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Hi, i'm having trouble to remove to hex screws that attach stay tray to the air intake ( pic 3 Now remove the hex screw on the back of the fairing stay on each side of the air intake.) . How to remove those ? Do i need heat that up or something ?

Also, i kind of expect same problems with - Now time for the air intake itself. On each side, there are to 10mm bolts that hold the intake on. Bend the metal clips back so you can undo these bolts (you'll have to turn the handlebars to get the forks out of the way). Once you've taken these 4 bolts out (again, 2 on each side), straighten the handlebars so you can pull the intake straight out.

Do you guys use something special to remove those bolts ?
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I wouldn't recommend putting heat on it, as most of the stuff around it is plastic. If it's never been off before it's probably just cranked on there from the factory. Everything seems extra tight on these bikes from the factory the first time you take out a bolt, screw, etc. I like to use a hex head socket, just because you can get a lot better leverage with a ratchet than you can with a t-handle.

My only question when I read posts like this, is what was the point of Honda designing a part like this, if it is a detriment to performance? Not to start a flame war, but it just doesn't make sense to me that Honda would dump probably millions into the R&D of this intake, with a team of engineers, just to knock it all to crap with a screwdriver. Are the baffles really strictly for noise dissipation?? Or was there really a greater purpose in it's design? that's all I will say....
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Thanks! I'm not doing the mod. Just need to replace it


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My only question when I read posts like this, is what was the point of Honda designing a part like this, if it is a detriment to performance? Not to start a flame war, but it just doesn't make sense to me that Honda would dump probably millions into the R&D of this intake, with a team of engineers, just to knock it all to crap with a screwdriver. Are the baffles really strictly for noise dissipation?? Or was there really a greater purpose in it's design? that's all I will say....
I feel the same way. Unlikely they would leave any more than .25hp on the table in an air intake design. Buuuut, its possible some tree hugger in California set a noise level restriction at a certain rpm, and those baffles keep it below that level. The "bark" everyone hears may be an assumption of more power. Never seen one, but a before and after dyno run (or two) would lay the suspicion in all of us to rest. I am not excited about the idea of chopping up my Carla, but could care less about noise levels, and if any hp at all is to be gained I will get my dremel out....

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Demented did an excellent study of gutted intake vs.stock......
as you read the thread it died before forced air dyno runs could be done.......

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p.s. there was some concern about rain being ingested into engine with gutted intake....consensus was that if you ride in heavy rain, do not do.... any confirmations?!

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