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The Amazing Story Behind Tho Global Warming Scam

By John Coleman
January 28, 2009

The key players are now all in place in Washington and in state governments across America to officially label carbon dioxide as a pollutant and enact laws that tax we citizens for our carbon footprints. Only two details stand in the way, the faltering economic times and a dramatic turn toward a colder climate. The last two bitter winters have lead to a rise in public awareness that CO2 is not a pollutant and is not a significant greenhouse gas that is triggering runaway global warming.

How did we ever get to this point where bad science is driving big government we have to struggle so to stop it?

The story begins with an Oceanographer named Roger Revelle. He served with the Navy in World War II. After the war he became the Director of the Scripps Oceanographic Institute in La Jolla in San Diego, California. Revelle saw the opportunity to obtain major funding from the Navy for doing measurements and research on the ocean around the Pacific Atolls where the US military was conducting atomic bomb tests. He greatly expanded the Instituteís areas of interest and among others hired Hans Suess, a noted Chemist from the University of Chicago, who was very interested in the traces of carbon in the environment from the burning of fossil fuels. Revelle tagged on to Suess studies and co-authored a paper with him in 1957. The paper raises the possibility that the carbon dioxide might be creating a greenhouse effect and causing atmospheric warming. It seems to be a plea for funding for more studies. Funding, frankly, is where Revelleís mind was most of the time.

Next Revelle hired a Geochemist named David Keeling to devise a way to measure the atmospheric content of Carbon dioxide. In 1960 Keeling published his first paper showing the increase in carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and linking the increase to the burning of fossil fuels.

These two research papers became the bedrock of the science of global warming, even though they offered no proof that carbon dioxide was in fact a greenhouse gas. In addition they failed to explain how this trace gas, only a tiny fraction of the atmosphere, could have any significant impact on temperatures.

Now let me take you back to the1950s when this was going on. Our cities were entrapped in a pall of pollution from the crude internal combustion engines that powered cars and trucks back then and from the uncontrolled emissions from power plants and factories. Cars and factories and power plants were filling the air with all sorts of pollutants. There was a valid and serious concern about the health consequences of this pollution and a strong environmental movement was developing to demand action. Government accepted this challenge and new environmental standards were set. Scientists and engineers came to the rescue. New reformulated fuels were developed for cars, as were new high tech, computer controlled engines and catalytic converters. By the mid seventies cars were no longer big time polluters, emitting only some carbon dioxide and water vapor from their tail pipes. Likewise, new fuel processing and smoke stack scrubbers were added to industrial and power plants and their emissions were greatly reduced, as well.

But an environmental movement had been established and its funding and very existence depended on having a continuing crisis issue. So the research papers from Scripps came at just the right moment. And, with them came the birth of an issue; man-made global warming from the carbon dioxide from the burning of fossil fuels.

Revelle and Keeling used this new alarmism to keep their funding growing. Other researchers with environmental motivations and a hunger for funding saw this developing and climbed aboard as well. The research grants began to flow and alarming hypothesis began to show up everywhere.

The Keeling curve showed a steady rise in CO2 in atmosphere during the period since oil and coal were discovered and used by man. As of today, carbon dioxide has increased from 215 to 385 parts per million. But, despite the increases, it is still only a trace gas in the atmosphere. While the increase is real, the percentage of the atmosphere that is CO2 remains tiny, about .41 hundredths of one percent.

Several hypothesis emerged in the 70s and 80s about how this tiny atmospheric component of CO2 might cause a significant warming. But they remained unproven. Years have passed and the scientists kept reaching out for evidence of the warming and proof of their theories. And, the money and environmental claims kept on building up.

Back in the 1960s, this global warming research came to the attention of a Canadian born United Nationís bureaucrat named Maurice Strong. He was looking for issues he could use to fulfill his dream of one-world government. Strong organized a World Earth Day event in Stockholm, Sweden in 1970. From this he developed a committee of scientists, environmentalists and political operatives from the UN to continue a series of meeting.

Strong developed the concept that the UN could demand payments from the advanced nations for the climatic damage from their burning of fossil fuels to benefit the underdeveloped nations, a sort of CO2 tax that would be the funding for his one-world government. But, he needed more scientific evidence to support his primary thesis. So Strong championed the establishment of the United Nationís Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. This was not a pure climate study scientific organization, as we have been lead to believe. It was an organization of one-world government UN bureaucrats, environmental activists and environmentalist scientists who craved the UN funding so they could produce the science they needed to stop the burning of fossil fuels. Over the last 25 years they have been very effective. Hundreds of scientific papers, four major international meetings and reams of news stories about climatic Armageddon later, the UN IPCC has made its points to the satisfaction of most and even shared a Nobel Peace Prize with Al Gore.

At the same time, that Maurice Strong was busy at the UN, things were getting a bit out of hand for the man who is now called the grandfather of global warming, Roger Revelle. He had been very politically active in the late 1950ís as he worked to have the University of California locate a San Diego campus adjacent to Scripps Institute in La Jolla. He won that major war, but lost an all important battle afterward when he was passed over in the selection of the first Chancellor of the new campus.

He left Scripps finally in 1963 and moved to Harvard University to establish a Center for Population Studies. It was there that Revelle inspired one of his students to become a major global warming activist. This student would say later, "It felt like such a privilege to be able to hear about the readouts from some of those measurements in a group of no more than a dozen undergraduates. Here was this teacher presenting something not years old but fresh out of the lab, with profound implications for our future!" The student described him as "a wonderful, visionary professor" who was "one of the first people in the academic community to sound the alarm on global warming," That student was Al Gore. He thought of Dr. Revelle as his mentor and referred to him frequently, relaying his experiences as a student in his book Earth in the Balance, published in 1992.

So there it is, Roger Revelle was indeed the grandfather of global warming. His work had laid the foundation for the UN IPCC, provided the anti-fossil fuel ammunition to the environmental movement and sent Al Gore on his road to his books, his movie, his Nobel Peace Prize and a hundred million dollars from the carbon credits business.

What happened next is amazing. The global warming frenzy was becoming the cause celeb of the media. After all the media is mostly liberal, loves Al Gore, loves to warn us of impending disasters and tell us "the sky is falling, the sky is falling". The politicians and the environmentalist loved it, too.

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But the tide was turning with Roger Revelle. He was forced out at Harvard at 65 and returned to California and a semi retirement position at UCSD. There he had time to rethink Carbon Dioxide and the greenhouse effect. The man who had inspired Al Gore and given the UN the basic research it needed to launch its Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change was having second thoughts. In 1988 he wrote two cautionary letters to members of Congress. He wrote, "My own personal belief is that we should wait another 10 or 20 years to really be convinced that the greenhouse effect is going to be important for human beings, in both positive and negative ways." He added, "…we should be careful not to arouse too much alarm until the rate and amount of warming becomes clearer."

And in 1991 Revelle teamed up with Chauncey Starr, founding director of the Electric Power Research Institute and Fred Singer, the first director of the U.S. Weather Satellite Service, to write an article for Cosmos magazine. They urged more research and begged scientists and governments not to move too fast to curb greenhouse CO2 emissions because the true impact of carbon dioxide was not at all certain and curbing the use of fossil fuels could have a huge negative impact on the economy and jobs and our standard of living. I have discussed this collaboration with Dr. Singer. He assures me that Revelle was considerably more certain than he was at the time that carbon dioxide was not a problem.

Did Roger Revelle attend the Summer enclave at the Bohemian Grove in Northern California in the Summer of 1990 while working on that article? Did he deliver a lakeside speech there to the assembled movers and shakers from Washington and Wall Street in which he apologized for sending the UN IPCC and Al Gore onto this wild goose chase about global warming? Did he say that the key scientific conjecture of his lifetime had turned out wrong? The answer to those questions is, "I think so, but I do not know it for certain". I have not managed to get it confirmed as of this moment. It’s a little like Las Vegas; what is said at the Bohemian Grove stays at the Bohemian Grove. There are no transcripts or recordings and people who attend are encouraged not to talk. Yet, the topic is so important, that some people have shared with me on an informal basis.

Roger Revelle died of a heart attack three months after the Cosmos story was printed. Oh, how I wish he were still alive today. He might be able to stop this scientific silliness and end the global warming scam.

Al Gore has dismissed Roger Revelle’s Mea culpa as the actions of senile old man. And, the next year, while running for Vice President, he said the science behind global warming is settled and there will be no more debate, From 1992 until today, he and his cohorts have refused to debate global warming and when ask about we skeptics they simply insult us and call us names.

So today we have the acceptance of carbon dioxide as the culprit of global warming. It is concluded that when we burn fossil fuels we are leaving a dastardly carbon footprint which we must pay Al Gore or the environmentalists to offset. Our governments on all levels are considering taxing the use of fossil fuels. The Federal Environmental Protection Agency is on the verge of naming CO2 as a pollutant and strictly regulating its use to protect our climate. The new President and the US congress are on board. Many state governments are moving on the same course.

We are already suffering from this CO2 silliness in many ways. Our energy policy has been strictly hobbled by no drilling and no new refineries for decades. We pay for the shortage this has created every time we buy gas. On top of that the whole thing about corn based ethanol costs us millions of tax dollars in subsidies. That also has driven up food prices. And, all of this is a long way from over.

And, I am totally convinced there is no scientific basis for any of it.

Global Warming. It is the hoax. It is bad science. It is a high jacking of public policy. It is no joke. It is the greatest scam in history.

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Its all about taxing, controlling and power on a global scale.....They already have a Carbon tax in SF, bay area......!
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I've always thought Global Warming was BS. And to think we gave Al Gore a freakin Nobel Prize for this **** is even more amazing.
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Guys, the debate is over... everyone agrees that global warming is man made. Why won't you just get with the program already?

We must hurry and spend ridicules amounts of money on something that is close to being irreversible. It has taken only 75 years to cause this 0.5 degree climate anomaly but we must act NOW before we actually know what's really going on so that we're not too late to save the earth from scorching +1 degree weather.
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haha glad to see people's eyes finally opening to this BS. I think this is happening more and more. People are realizing and more studies are coming out that shows clear proof that global warming is a steaming pile of horse sh*t. They were never able to prove that it was real anyway. But again, through the media brainwashing it becomes a "fact".

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It is no joke. It is the greatest scam in history
Honestly I would say that the Federal Reserve is the biggest scam in history. But global warming is pretty up there.

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Honestly I would say that the Federal Reserve is the biggest scam in history. But global warming is pretty up there.
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Bump for all the tree hugging hippies believing Al Gore and Obama's BS agenda on global warming.

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Until ANY weatherman can tell me what the weather is going to be for the upcoming week ACCURATELY, they can shove the global warming s#%t up their ass :beer:


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i don’t know, that is a grate entertainment article but its bias and lack of real evidence. global warming is real, climate shift is real, and human factor in this epidemic is real. the polar ice cap is melting, the Ozone hole is getting bigger and bigger, the CO level within the sea is increasing. each of those factors are significant enough to not be ignore. the natural habitat and micro ecosystems are destroy because of human expansion. here is an example. amphibians like frogs are sensitive to minor climate change, since they don’t have the warm blood to adjust body temperatures, the same with sea animals, sometimes 1 degrees can be live for death. if one species die, their prey flourish while their predator suffer. this imbalance will cause the micro system to be less diverse, and when a eco system is less diverse, the chances of every species survivability also decrease. base on examining the data for dinosaurs extinction, you can see how species diversity is a cause of the ultimate extinction. the same prinical of the butterfly effect can be apply to this situation.

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Interesting article, but like most political articles its lack of cited facts make it seem more like propaganda than truth. Not saying I don't agree with it's main points though. ;)

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I'm all for clean fuels, less contamination and biodegradable stuff, of course its important to keep the earth clean...for our own good, however this "global warming" thing is full of greedy schemes to deceive the public and make tons of money. I hope people soon start realizing how much were getting fvcked.

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global warming is real....

its always the people who care vs the people who care to make money....

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I don't think anyone disagrees that the earth has warmed over the last 30 years, but the big debate is whether its really man made or a natural cycle of the earth. I've read a lot of articles on both sides of the story and I side with the natural cycle of events.
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i think base on both the natural and man made argument studys, it seems like, global warming is a combonation of both. where base on the ice core sample. earth do very in its temperature depends on its relative angle, spend, gravational force distance from the sun etc. but human factors also have increase the rate of change as well as distorying the natural eco system to ballance the effects. one real danger is the raising carbon level in sea water. it could potentially distory many species that lives in the sea. we need more sea weed to convert the carbin in to oxigen.

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Here's a part of the new film, The Obama Deception:

This is getting waaaaay out of control!

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I don't think anyone disagrees that the earth has warmed over the last 30 years, but the big debate is whether its really man made or a natural cycle of the earth. I've read a lot of articles on both sides of the story and I side with the natural cycle of events.
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U.N. 'Climate Change' Plan Would Likely Shift Trillions to Form New World Economy

A United Nations document on "climate change" that will be distributed to a major environmental conclave next week envisions a huge reordering of the world economy, likely involving trillions of dollars in wealth transfer, millions of job losses and gains, new taxes, industrial relocations, new tariffs and subsidies, and complicated payments for greenhouse gas abatement schemes and carbon taxes — all under the supervision of the world body.


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If I am not mistaken, the ocean accounts for about 90% of the CO2 produced on our planet. Then following behind vegetation and a number of other things is what humans cause. In other words, what we do accounts for fractions of a percentage of total C02 that goes into our atmosphere. I have to look up some sources for this as I know most people (rightfully so) want such information behind a claim. Anyone help me out?

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Scientists: Global warming has already changed oceans
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WASHINGTON — In Washington state , oysters in some areas haven't reproduced for four years, and preliminary evidence suggests that the increasing acidity of the ocean could be the cause. In the Gulf of Mexico , falling oxygen levels in the water have forced shrimp to migrate elsewhere.

Though two marine-derived drugs, one for treating cancer and the other for pain control, are on the market and 25 others are under development, the fungus growing on seaweed, bacteria in deep sea mud and sea fans that could produce life-saving medicines are under assault from changing the ocean conditions.

Researchers, scientists and Jacques Cousteau's granddaughter painted a bleak picture Tuesday of the future of oceans and the "blue economy" of the nation's coastal states.

The hearing before the oceans subcommittee of the Senate Commerce Committee was expected to focus on how the degradation of the oceans was affecting marine businesses and coastal communities. Instead, much of the testimony focused on how the waters that cover 70 percent of the planet are already changing because of global warming.

Ocean acidification or diseases that thrive in acidified, oxygen-depleted seawater could be responsible for oysters not reproducing in Washington state , said Brad Warren , who oversees the ocean health and acidification program of the Sustainable Fisheries Partnership in Seattle . A federal study found that two-thirds of larval blue crabs died when exposed to acidity levels like those currently measured off the West Coast , he said.

Federal studies also found acidity levels in the North Pacific and off Alaska are unusually high compared to other ocean regions. The high acidity is already taking a toll of such tiny species as pteropods, which are an important food for salmon and other fish.

As greenhouse gas emissions increase, billions of tons of carbon dioxide from smokestacks and vehicle tailpipes are absorbed by the oceans. The result is carbonic acid, which dilutes the "rich soup" of calcium carbonate in the seawater that many species, especially on the low end of the food chain, thrive in, Warren said.

"If we lose it, it is gone forever," Warren said of the oceans' delicate chemical balance.

In the Gulf of Mexico , Alexandra Cousteau said, the runoff down the Mississippi River from farms in the Midwest has created a dead zone the size of New Jersey where few species can survive. Wetlands in Louisiana are disappearing at the rate of 33 football fields a day as hurricanes grow in strength and frequency because of climate change, she said.

"We must start to realize that there can be no standalone policies, especially as they relate to our water resources," Cousteau said. "Energy, transportation, climate change, infrastructure, agriculture, urban development: this is where our ocean policy must begin. It is all interconnected."

Others testified that the economic toll eventually could be enormous for fishing and other ocean-related industries and for the nation's coastal communities. Taken together, the ocean and coastal economies, including the Great Lakes , provide more than 50 million jobs and make up nearly 60 percent of the nation's economy.

"Significant environmental changes, such as sea level and sea temperature rise, oxygen depletion and ocean acidification, will dramatically change the landscape, restructuring an array of natural and physical assets as well as cultural and economic," said Judith Kidlow of the National Ocean Economics Program. "Over the next 30 years, the nation will see the most significant changes in the ocean and coastal economies since the arrival of industrialization and urbanization."

The subcommittee's chairman, Sen. Maria Cantwell , D- Wash. , suggested a doubling of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration budget, which is now about $4 billion , and giving the agency additional responsibilities.

Cantwell, however, said the key has to be passing comprehensive climate change legislation to reduce carbon emissions.

"Protecting our oceans is an environmental and economic imperative," Cantwell said.
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haha glad to see people's eyes finally opening to this BS. I think this is happening more and more. People are realizing and more studies are coming out that shows clear proof that global warming is a steaming pile of horse sh*t. They were never able to prove that it was real anyway. But again, through the media brainwashing it becomes a "fact".
Peoples eyes ARE NOT opening up...it's still really bad out there...i would say that a good 70% falling for this rubbish are the panzee @ss college kids that are being fed this nonsense. It's really scary to see how people are about this issue...the new scam is everything "green" I'm so sick of this green sh!t, i can't take much more...my golfsmith even try to get me to buy some new golfballs and when i read the box , they were "made with envirnment friendly products" ...LMAO, gimmie a fuc&ing break already. I also had a friend on facebook delete me because i told her that global warming was fake and a scam and she ranted on about how she studied under a professor at NYU that explained that the bee colonies were disappearing and without bees we would all die, or some far out sh!t like that...WHAT THE FU^K IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE???

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Peoples eyes ARE NOT opening up...it's still really bad out there...i would say that a good 70% falling for this rubbish are the panzee @ss college kids that are being fed this nonsense. It's really scary to see how people are about this issue...the new scam is everything "green" I'm so sick of this green sh!t, i can't take much more...my golfsmith even try to get me to buy some new golfballs and when i read the box , they were "made with envirnment friendly products" ...LMAO, gimmie a fuc&ing break already. I also had a friend on facebook delete me because i told her that global warming was fake and a scam and she ranted on about how she studied under a professor at NYU that explained that the bee colonies were disappearing and without bees we would all die, or some far out sh!t like that...WHAT THE FU^K IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE???
I agree that the green movement is going WAY too far in some situations. Green golf balls, LOL. There are a lot of people marketing everything as green just to make a few bucks while it has zero effect on the environment.

I'm waiting to see them market "green" gasoline at the gas station.
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your right about the green movement. where green is more about marketing than the actual product or the process of producing a product. i do however, can see how a golf ball can be green by the way its manufacture. where some processes can be alter or replace with environmental friendly steps.

i hope one day, green is not just a marketing scheme but rather a way of product designing, and manufacturing. where being green is not something special rather than a requirement.

i just want to add that being green is very real. it doesn't stop at just reducing cabin output, rather it helps protect the environment by not distorying its natural habitat. places where protecting the environmental issue takes a back seat have taken its toll. china for example, you cannot see the sky in the inner cities like Beijing or Shanghai because the smogs are covering the sky. the acid rain cause people to loose hair, children had develop respiratory deficiency symptoms etc.

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"The key players are now all in place in Washington and in state governments across America to officially label carbon dioxide as a pollutant and enact laws that tax we citizens for our carbon footprints. Only two details stand in the way, the faltering economic times and a dramatic turn toward a colder climate."

The house just passed this garbage on Friday. "Cap and Trade" This bill will double what you pay for gas, heating oil, etc... and QUADRUPLE your electric bill

Thanks for voting Obama folks

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Yep, we are being looted of our income even more, and yet it gets hardly any media coverage, people are too busy talking about celebrity gossip and stupid tv shows. I don't think it would even really matter if people knew about it, Americans just seem to accept being robbed by the government. If the TV says its ok, then it must be, right?

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"Only two details stand in the way, the faltering economic times and a dramatic turn toward a colder climate."
Wait, wait, wait.... A colder climate!? Is that what they are saying now?

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009...change-report/

Sen. Inhofe Calls for Inquiry Into 'Suppressed' Climate Change Report

A top Republican senator has ordered an investigation into the Environmental Protection Agency's alleged suppression of a report that questioned the science behind global warming.

The 98-page report, co-authored by EPA analyst Alan Carlin, pushed back on the prospect of regulating gases like carbon dioxide as a way to reduce global warming. Carlin's report argued that the information the EPA was using was out of date, and that even as atmospheric carbon dioxide levels have increased, global temperatures have declined.

"He came out with the truth. They don't want the truth at the EPA," Sen. James Inhofe, R-Okla, a global warming skeptic, told FOX News, saying he's ordered an investigation. "We're going to expose it."

The controversy comes after the House of Representatives passed a landmark bill to regulate greenhouse gas emissions, one that Inhofe said will be "dead on arrival" in the Senate despite President Obama's energy adviser voicing confidence in the measure.

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